Just going to lay this out here. What is being said in this thread is very out of pocket and honestly annoying. The fact that people are willing to say that trans women are just mad cuz lol they don't pass as well, is so fucking gross.

Also people laying the narrative that gnc people are just hated on by binary trans people is so frustrating, yes are communities do have issues. But I've encountered many online femboys who shame trans women and try to get in passing contests with us. It honestly feels like shit when guys who are just younger and born kinda femme try to our women you for the lols. I've delt with this a lot and the fact that this sub keeps peddling this bull shit.

It's really gross to see the same exact fucking community who gets their undies bunched up when people make bald jokes and small dick jokes go lol mad cuz no pass. The criticism of f11n is valid he plays into trans tropes but says he's a femboy so many legit trans people do this to make money. Stop acting like femboys and traps weren't used by 4 chan boards to invalidate the identities of trans women in the early 2010s.

Stop acting like femboys and especially trap wasn't used in a sexual way and humiliating and didn't really become reaprorpiated by femme men in like the last 5 years. I watched that fucking shit happen. No one was calling themselves a femmboy online in 2014 unless they were doing request content on image boards. Not saying femme cis men or valid but the gaslighting is real here. Or that these terms were used by some to try to spin clear early representations of trans people into their own world view.