So the next time a Honey Badger tries to sell you marriage, remember this...

are you pathologically stupid? you literally just proved the point. the law enables abuse. "every separated/divorced mother in the western world has had the option of shared parenting." key word, option. men don't have that option. the law enables abuse exactly by giving women the option to completely fuck over the man. it doesn't matter how decent she is. it doesn't matter how evil she is. what matters is that the legal system gives her weapons in her vendetta against her ex. it's a weapon that men don't have. it's a weapon that men have no defense against. the law literally enables abuse. how is that bullshit? you didn't provide anything to contradict that. you literally just provided an example of how the law enables abuse. how confused are you?

it just seems like ramblings of a really angry person. i understand why you might be angry, but again, this does not help us get our civil rights. this actually just hurts us. not everybody can relate to what you're feeling, and it just makes them intimidated, scared, etc. look, maybe women are inherently evil, i don't really care. it doesn't matter. if it's true, it's not going to change, and no amount of angry reddit posts is going to make any difference. if you just want to vent about your anger at women, fine, but do it somewhere else that isn't literally about men's rights. the whole point of this subreddit is to give men their rights back. to prevent women from having the tools to legally abuse men. do you get it? the whole fucking point of this subreddit is to change the fact that the law enables abuse, by women, against men. that is exactly what she said and it's pretty much the mission statement of this subreddit. we have a legal problem here. it's not a woman problem. see, it might be something that's unique to women, but it doesn't become a "woman problem" until somebody can prove that it can change through social/cultural means. it's a legal problem because only a political/legal change can solve it. thus, legal problem. very simple. how can it be a woman problem if women are inherently like this? then it's not a problem women can fix. it's a problem the law can fix. if women are like this because of social norms, who cares? if you can figure out a way to change those social norms, good for you, but i think it's a lot easier and more effective to just change the law so that evil women can't abuse men.

there will always be abusive men and abusive women. the difference is that men have physical power, women have emotional power. our laws have leaned too far in the direction of women. they favor women at every turn. we are never going to get rid of abusive men or abusive women. what we have done for quite some time is to prohibit abuse. the problem is that we haven't prohibited female abuse of men. we not only allow women to do this, our legal system actually does it for them. this is enabling abuse. so abusive men get punishment, abusive women get assistance. this is very clearly a legal problem. it's got its roots in gynocentrism, OBVIOUSLY, but it doesn't matter where the roots are because it's not going away without legal changes. gynocentrism is hard-coded into our brains. it's an evolutionary, genetic thing, quite clearly. so what is the point in advocating against gynocentrism when it's such an amorphous, abstract thing? it does not disappear. it rehashes itself with every new generation. it's just how humans think. i don't care that gynocentrism is the root of our problems. i don't care that it's primarily women who take advantage of men's lack of rights. i don't care who's doing it. i want it to end. there will always be victimizers. you might reduce the number socially, but you will leave it possible for women to abuse men unless you approach it from the legal direction.

i really have no interest in bashing women for allegedly being abusive. i do not think women are more abusive than men. i think women more frequently do this kind of shit because they're not afraid of punishment. indeed, everyone around them tells them that they are free to fuck over men if they want. they are well aware that they have these weapons, and that nobody will stop them. an abusive man who wants to ruin a woman's life... he's probably afraid of getting in trouble. most abusive men do get in trouble. they're inhibited by fear of punishment. i think there are just as many abusive women out there, but not as many of them are inhibited, because they can abuse men without getting in legal trouble! we see more of this abuse from women because men are scared of punishment. there are probably more abusive men out there, they're just inactive because they're inhibited. that's the deal basically. i think that once we sort out men's legal rights and eliminate gender bias, things will look a lot more balanced, and you'll stop telling yourself that women are inherently evil and sick.

she is not defending the institutions that you compare to slavery. she is hardly even defending her own gender. yet you act like she's defending slavery. she says she wants to eliminate the legal systems that allow women to abuse men... then you say she's advocating the equivalent to slavery? what? she's trying to take the slavery OUT OF THE EQUATION. so that men and women can live together peacefully again. maybe women aren't for you, but personally i fucking like pussy. i have since i was a little fucking boy. now you can get angry at me for that, but i don't really care. i care a lot about protecting myself from dangerous women, a little about sex, and very, very little about what some random guy on the internet thinks about me. some men ought to go their own way. i will, for a very long time. but at some point i would like to engage with women. if i find a woman i can trust, maybe then. but it's very hard to tell, i personally think any woman is capable of pulling this shit given the right circumstances and parameters. i don't think you can tell in advance how a woman will behave years down the road. which is why i want to remove the legal weapons she has against me. that way, even if i trust her, she's not holding a gun under the table in all of my interactions with her. then i can pursue whatever my heart desires without having to compromise my future, my security, my finances, etc.

if you don't want to spend time with women, so be it. i don't care. but there is nothing wrong with men wanting to be with women, being afraid to do so in the current climate, and therefore trying to change the laws so that the climate is less threatening to men, and makes sexual relationships less risky. if every man went their own way, the species would die. that's a big problem. some of us are going to have to do it. but more and more men are realizing this is not safe. fewer and fewer men are becoming simps. great. but what does that mean for us? what is the end goal? is the end goal to boycott relationships/marriage until the legal system, or women, cave in to our demands of fairness and actual equality? or is the end goal to just say "fuck women"? see, i think your argument is not helpful to men. it might feel cathartic to you, but it does no good for men as a whole. we need women at one point or another, just as women need us. individual men and women don't need each other, but as a whole, we absolutely need each other for procreation. so we're gonna have to figure this shit out at some point. we can't let the population decline because only male idiots are getting involved with females. we have to change the system so that every man's rights are protected.

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