Thats what i observed, you could argue whatever you wanted, any degree of logic it wouldn't get you anywhere. You can see that with people down voting my original comment, people just get petulant and repeat the same old rubbish. To quote from personal experience "nobody will listen to an Englishman" - all I said that oil was a risky and volatile industry and it should be treated as a bonus but not totally relied upon. People ignore the facts to just further their own nationalistic principles which is fine, but don't pretend the country will be better off for it. "The English are pretending that having oil is a curse to Scotland" No, we are just saying it is volatile I don't remember saying it is a bad thing...

And yes of course, there are plenty of logical Yes voters as you mentioned.

I'm well in favour of fiscal autonomy, if Scotland wants to go independent it has to do so under that criteria. People might then realise that its a major risk to do so and is unlikely to be the land of milk and honey the SNP like to pretend it is. To make up for the deficit in spending, which every country in the UK suffers from right now, the SNP would have to make cuts. It's very easy to slate austerity and promise increased spending when you don't have to make the figures meet. I am 99% certain if the SNP got full fiscal autonomy they would have to at least make some major changes to their policies or risk public spending becoming a blackhole.

That is without even discussing the embarrassing performance of Salmond who was told Scotland would not use the pound but kept repeating it like a moron, couldn't even give the people of his own country an honest answer.

As usual, I am sure people will downvote this but people rarely raise sensible points to these issues, they choose to just bang in Independence drum and ignore other opinions as Tory/Labour/UKIP / English drivel.