NY TIMES article suggests freezing beans...

Is that actually true? We have a range of different compounds we perceive as 'sweet', so it's not that there's a "sweet" chemical. In fact, with something like magic berry, all sorts of things not traditionally considered sweet, taste sweet.

Magical berries being added to lemons to make them sweet or other things is now two products. Also, even you say that magical berries are a sweet thing. Why? They are only sweet to you, with normal functioning taste buds. No? So you are using my argument to try and counter my argument. That doesn't really work.

And I never said there is a sweet chemical.

And yet sweet is a taste - sugar content is not sweet until it's tasted. And high sugar content doesn't mean that that food or drink won't be perceieved in some completely other way if another taste or flavour is more dominating.

This is starting to remind me too much of art school arguments. Cmon. If I have a jar of sugar and ask you to describe the taste, you would say sweet. You would not say, 'well, it does not taste like anything because it is not in my mouth at this time.'

And of course the perspectives of the disabled Do Not Count, yes?

They don't count anywhere else. We make exceptions to rules and examples all the time to accommodate for disabilities and outliers in different systems. There are usually a different set of rules and examples.

When someone says, do you see that bird in that tree? Well, I could see it, but if I was blind I could not see it. If I had bad vision, I might not see it either. Oh, you're talking about me, a person with normal vision? (The bird already flew away). No I don't see any bird.

I mean, hyperbole, but you get the point - discarding outliers for the sake of convenience is a real questionable standard to set.

By who's standards? Everyone does it all the time. Nobody in their right mind would have an apple in front of them and argue that it's not sweet because someone who has taste buds fried from smoking cigarettes for 40 years can't taste the sweetness.

If you guys want to keep going at it with it all being subjective, that's fine, but please, come up with a better argument then 'sugar isn't sweet because someone has messed up taste buds.'

/r/Coffee Thread Parent Link - nytimes.com