How is that relevant? It's a job that needs full-time workers doing it to keep society running. That means those people should be paid enough to finance a decent life for themselves and their families. I don't see why only people with "hard" jobs deserve to make a reasonable living. Does that mean that the "not hard" jobs should just be performed by a permanent underclass?

I just think that they should not make as much money as someone who had to go to college for 4 years to study something related to their field. Just does not seem fair in my mind. You could say that " then the people who graduated from college should make more money" but that would also mean that everything would be more expensive and we would be back where we are again.

Um, yeah. If you think from the owner's perspective, you'd pay $0/hour if you could get away with it. That's why we have unions and strikes, so the parasitic owners don't get to just get away with whatever they want in a labor market flush with supply

But in a capitalistic world you could not get away with it. If people are not willing to work the money you offer, you have to pay them more, unless the business is willing to hire someone less competent who would eventually cost them more money.

I know that reddit it super socialistic and I agree that there are some things that need to be regulated. Maybe it's my family's current financial situation that makes me a little right winged. I moved to US almost 5 years ago now and since then after hard work and some luck we have a 3 year old company that made $2.5M last year, around 40-50% profit rate, and just got a new customer who will potentially add around $2M to it. We currently only have 2 full time workers and 2 salesmen besides me, me mum and me step-dad. Life is good now