Orgrim, the orc protagonist played by Robert Kazinsky in the upcoming 'Warcraft' film

Funny, I just discovered /r/asoiaf a couple of hours ago (I figured it was a book only sub and I'm not a reader) and it's been a breath of fresh air compared to the echo chamber that is the default GoT sub.

They are right and judging from the tone of your post, I'd say you disagree.

The only difference here is that you and the majority have lower standards while some of us actually care about good dialogue, choreography and plots. They cut the Greyjoys for Grewyorm love story and Cringe Snakes. They killed Barristan like he was an extra. I'm not a book reader and these changes don't make sense.

Just after the last episode aired I tried having a long-ass discussion on the GoT sub about the slow pace of the season and I used facts, stuff that actually happened, from the 6 episodes of each previous seasons and all I got was silent downvotes and attacks at my person instead of the points I was making. Stuff like "you rewatched the seasons recently, of course they didn't seem slow to you" and people overly simplifying my points making them easier to attack.

It's totally cool that you like season 5 but the truth is the show is going downhill. And unless they pull a magic hat trick in the last 4 episodes and keep a steady direction for the next seasons, it's going to be worse and worse. These are facts you could read about yourself in /r/asoiaf if you're not the type to burry your hand in the sand and chant "lalala" in your head thinking everything is perfect.

Now then, this is a Warcraft movie discussion not GoT and we got here because of this line you made:

Funny, people are downvoting me because I want a good movie that is not just filled with fan-service.

I totally 100% agree. I also want a movie that's just good and doesn't shove our faces with references and god knows what else but you implied that's what some of us and people at /r/asoiaf want from Game of Thrones which is absolute bullshit.

Very few actually care how much the TV shows stays true to the source material (and rightfully so cause GRRM proved himself with his writing, D&D didn't) as long as the changes are good. But most of the changes were not good, rather they were not properly executed.

The movie you don't Warcraft to become is exactly what GoT is becoming.

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