Pictured: Panera Bread responds to the proposed $15/hr minimum wage.

Eh, I'm finding it hard to sleep so let's run up the list.

The irony, it hurts. You were literally proven wrong... This has nothing to do with my ideologies. This has everything to do with correcting your inaccuracies.

Proven wrong? You haven't proven a god damned thing. You listed states that paid below the federal minimum wage, I pointed out that they had almost all raised the tipped minimum and that very few RTW states had raised theirs thus right to work states can be said to pay their tipped employees less. If anything that's not proof against my position, it's against yours. Also mostly in my original post that California wasn't some right to work state I wasn't expected to be taken literally. Little throwaway joke cause RTW is pretty shit.

Nope, not how that works. Sorry. Not even remotely close...

Uh... that's kind of exactly how it works. When all or most of your data is pointing to something that's a pretty strong indicator that it's true. It's not definitive but you have to make too many assumptions to go any other way with it. May in the end prove to not be true, who knows, but for now that's what signs point to.

Here's why "correlation doesn't equal causation" is such a "mantra": how can you contribute lower wages to "RTW" laws? Did you rule out factors such as a lower cost of living?

I love your use of quotations, literally made me laugh out loud. You ever been in a college class and listened to dozens of students drone out the mantra in tandem? They really are words to live by. Anyway most of the studies that look at these sort of issues attempt to make corrections to isolate the variable as best as possible. This is usually difficult and not an exact science but most of them do reach the same conclusions. Perhaps more data is needed and we'll see going forward. Frankly though it's always been a tentative balance between business and labor rights. Give too much to one and the other side suffers. Unions created because businesses had too much power, right to work because labor had too much power. When costs of living start going up and businesses don't pay more who has all the bargaining chips there?

That's what you said, in case you forgot.

I didn't forget what I said. Perhaps it was phrased a little poorly and there was a joke in there somewhere, but I still stand by it. Someone in Cali makes $9 an hour whether they get $80 in tips or $8. Someone in a RTW state gets paid $2.13 an hour when they get $80 in tips and ~$7 an hour when they get $8 in tips. Also probably a stern talking to or a termination since they're costing the business by not getting their tips. No matter what they lose. If $20 a day is the most you can afford per server you shouldn't be in business.

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