Politics in Alberta school: Conservatives are almost fascist and Green are centrist

When it comes to something like the extreme "Top Left" and what is essentially purely theoretical "Left Authoritarianism", there's an inherent conflict with the L-R axis points.

The idea of a rigid authoritarian power structure exerting control over everything is fundamentally right of the utopian ideal of "True Communism" (bottom left). ie. The ultimate ideological end state of pure Marxism is moving beyond vestiges of traditional state instruments in the form of transitional facilitators. Thus, to maintain rigid authoritarian structures representative of "extreme Top Left" is to maintain inherently hierarchical power structures and prospective class divisions. Which logically must be Right of the ideologically pure utopian communist philosophy of the extreme bottom right. Having a rigid authoritarian state is inherently less egalitarian than pure communism.

Yet they're still presented as exactly the same far pole on the L axis of the chart. That is philosophically impossible. So what you end up with essentially must be a sort of distortion to the line that may approach the Upper L-R limit...but cannot ever reach it.

With the extreme "bottom right" it's kind of more of a pragmatic problem. It's territory that delves into the idea of Economic Darwinisim. Which, as in most life...pragmatically ends up with people/animals banding together in mutual self interest. Which in turn starts to morph into the idea of cartel capitalism or something along those lines. Which brings the accouterments of at least an informal political organization that starts to resemble a form of "government rule by economic superiority".

Fundamentally, it's because the whole quadrant thing is essentially just the "offensive" originally posted conventional spectrum from Communism-Fascism, turned 45 degrees with some tangential lines branching off at various points in what would otherwise just be the "Y" vertical axis. And in that framework, it doesn't really make any sense for tangents to get to those opposite corners. If you turn the "4 corners" graph back 45 degrees to level the way it belongs...those "extreme" Top-Left/Bottom-Right corners aren't even on the chart and it probably makes more sense.

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