POST GAME THREAD: Red Sox (48-60) @ Yankees (60-46) - August 05, 2015

I'm not judging him by his one start (which was great).

Sorry, but the best MLB debut I've seen recently has to be Cueto's. 7 IP, 1 ER, 10 Ks. That's the gold standard.

5 and a L aren't great. That's "ok."

Take a look at his numbers at every level.

Minor league stats don't mean anything. Dustin Ackley was a 300 hitter in the minors. Doesn't mean jack squat. You're probably one of those guys who think Mateo's SB numbers are supposed to be impressive. He's running on MiLB catchers. Not the Wieters or Grandals or Molinas or Lucroys of the world.

You're being overly negative and haven't made a single convincing point against him.

You'll have to excuse me but the Yankees' track record is abysmal with prospects recently. Beyond Cano and ok-but-not-great Phil Hughes, they haven't been that good. Betances has been great but he's a failed starter. Bit of a mixed bag from a development view. The bottom line is that the Yankees' track record with pitching prospects- Hughes, Kennedy, Joba, etc. is not good. I have no reason to expect any different. He pitched exactly like Phil Hughes did a youngster. Hard FB, breaking ball, inconsistent changeup, and not efficient enough. Too many bad counts, too much trying to be cute. Pass, sorry. Rather have David Price.

There is no need to even bother making an argument with you because you're so fucking drunk on Luis Severino is the GOAT kool-aid that it's not even worth it. And I definitely don't see you changing your tune.

I'll just flat out say it. This kid will never be the Yankees' ace. He'll never win a Cy Young and he won't be inducted into the HoF. It won't happen. He's not great. He's ok, but he's more Pineda (a #2A starter) than he is Pedro Martinez. 1 in 3 elite pitching prospects bust- I don't see any reason why he won't either. Track record isn't there with this development program to suggest otherwise.

Your inability to control your emotions, speech, and look at players in an objective, scrutinizing factors means that, simply put, I am done arguing with you. Rest assured, if he gets bombed by Toronto on Sunday- a likely outcome, you will hear from me, often.

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