Psychology? I am very interested in it, but I have now seen three counselors (Masters Degrees in psychology) and every one of them has been a complete idiot. Is psychology even less of a 'hard science' than I thought? Is it just bunk?

(and I'd argue that nothing I've said could be viewed as an exaggeration but that's not overly important).

I'm surprised you have a limit on things that are not important enough to argue about. This is one of the more tedious conversations I've had on Reddit, but I'm game. Don't limit yourself for my sake. Let's make this as tedious as possible.

If I "dumb down" the history of the colonisation of America by saying that it was invaded by Martians, then I would just be wrong even if someone could charitably interpret "Martian" as meaning "alien" in a completely different context.

This analogy, for instance, is superfluous and distracts from your point rather than explaining it. I thought you might want to know.

Indeed he is but the religions that view him as being related to god in some way describe him as a manifestation of god, not the totality of god (which would be something closer to the trinity). In other words, when Catholics pray to god, they aren't praying to the man that lived thousands of years ago.

Your original statement: "I don't know of any religion that thinks god(s) is/are men - they are usually supernatural beings."

I'm simply pointing out that Jesus was a man with supernatural powers. I'm not saying he is the totality of God or that Catholics pray to him. Again, you said, "I don't know of any religion that thinks god(s) is/are men - they are usually supernatural beings." Christianity has a guy who's both. I'm not saying Jesus is OP's invisible man. I'm just toning down your exaggerated statement about gods always being supernatural, not natural.

Yes, in the image of him, not as copies of himself. He did not create humans as gods and instead he supposedly extended his likeness to them (e.g. they possess reason, intellect, free will, etc).

I feel like you're being deliberately obtuse. God created man in his own image -> God has the image of a man -> God looks like a man, he could be described as 'a man' -> There are people who believe there is an invisible man watching over them.

The context that the OP uses it in is in the sense that he will look after you, as in if you get sick then you can just wait for god to make it go away.

Not sure what you mean here. Are you trying to say that "watching over us" only refers to love and peace and not physical protection or literal watching? According to Proverbs 15:3, "The eyes of the Lord are in every place, Watching the evil and the good."

rather than rearranging the world in order to suit our personal needs and desires.

No one has said anything like this.

Granted there are crazy fringe groups out there that conceive of god as a kind of genie that grants wishes but it makes no sense to treat that as the standard religious belief.

No one has done that. However, you did say that no religious person believes in this invisible man watching over them. So even if this were the kind of "watching" we were referring to, you've just said that some groups interpret it that way. So no matter how you want to interpret "watch over," someone out there believes it's happening. Someone, not no one.

Yay! We're making it horrible!

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