Question on Garrett Foster

So like Bundy.

Where's the violent rioting here? It's a bunch of dudes taking down a fence...not saying it didn't happen...but your rebuttal to violent rioting is guys taking down a fence...slowly...?

By violently taking over federal land and buildings, destroying federal property, and having an armed standoff with police. Right after you defended rioting.

Show me the footage of them 'violently' taking it over and rioting. Not just the footage of them disassembling a fence. While yes, that's federal property and they should've faced charges for destruction of federally owned property, that's not a violent riot like in portland.

I only read briefly on the Bundy case from Vox, I'm not pretending to know 100% of the case or anything, but that video you initially linked is comparing two completely different scenarios that happened, it's not the same. Not even close.

Not suddenly, the dispute started in 1989 and he refused to renew his grazing permit in 1993, in 1998 a federal court ruled he had to stop. That whole dispute had been going on for decades. He was ordered, by court, to cease grazing activities on federal land. He failed to comply, so BLM rounded up the trespassing cattle. That is not theft.

Okay, sure, I'll concede that point, like I said, not an expert on the topic or anything, just read up on it briefly, but did it justify the feds being sent? I haven't seen evidence yet to show that it does. If you have it, show it, I would like to see it and be proven wrong.

I'm not saying the guy is in the right at all, just that it's completely different from violent larpers attacking federal property and police with explosives, rocks, frozen bottles, hammers, ect.

Like the unjustified murder of George Floyd?

Watch the bodycam footage, look at the toxicology reports, there's more to the story than CNN is telling you bud. Should he have knelt on his neck for that long? No, probably not, but that's not what caused his death, there was no sign of affixiation in the coroner's report. He was saying he can't breath long before he was on the ground. They should have maybe provided aid faster, but they can't make the ambulance teleport to them, he was on a cocktail of drugs at the time and struggling against the officers when they were trying to put him in the car, they were trying to help him and calm him down but he kept fighting them. That cell phone footage that lead to all those riots doesn't show the full picture.

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