r/LivestreamFail discuss men's issues

I only brought the househusband as one possible example. There are men who don't want to partner, but they may want to help a family to the best of his (small or big) ability. And there are those who may feel like a burden on the family (an unemployed man is automatically considered worthless by society at large, and pitied by his family at best), or even those who may have no family or friends at all and feel completely helpless and alone. Or even those who just don't want a partner (or may have wanted, but life circumstances caused them to feel unworthy).

Even if one shouldn't technically be obligated to "perform", society says otherwise. If a man is not pro-active, he's not a real man. If a man is not fully self-sufficient and autonomous, he's a lost case (this is especially true in cases of crippling mental illness, but can also happen to men who don't have said illnesses). If a man is not employed or is not driven by personal ambitions, the vast majority of people will either judge him harshly or pity him (though pitying someone is still a form of judgement, even if it's a mostly harmless one).

I was looking for different positive traits. Ones that do not derive from action, but, for example, from inner empathy and/or sympathy, or ones that still say a man is a man at the end of the day, in spite of him not being particularly skilled or fully self-reliant (but may feel better about himself when in a communal unit with mutual support, help, and care, in a way he can still contribute, to the best of his ability).

(For the record, I'm not trying to debate feminism; I'm more asking what answers can feminism, or, for that matter, good, non-toxic movements which aren't necessarily feminist or anti-feminist, provide to cases like these I've mentioned; but you are free not to explain, since I'm not very bright)

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