Caff and Turps has victims. Sjin has alleged victims. I would as say that people who have been made upset or uncomfortable from Sjin's actions are victims.

The screenshots could be legitimate while still not constituting guilt of grooming. All the screenshots I have seen have been ambiguous and not conclusive, so even if they were proven to be real, they would not necessarily constitute a 'guilty' decision.

Like I said he is in the same category as Caff and Turps because they have all left the Yogscast as a result of negative interaction with fans.

I can see how my use of the word victim could be confusing. in suggesting they all have victims I am in no way suggesting they are victims of the same thing, or have suffered in the same magnitude. However, if anyone what 'upset or uncomfortable' as Lewis said, I still think this constitutes a victim relatively speaking.

Like many people, I am feeling emotional about this, and therefore may have used unnecessarily emotive language or been unclear in my writing. i am sorry if this is the case. However, I stand by what I said, and I don't think any of it is conjecture.

You are coming from a decent place, I can see that. I just hope that you can see that post is meant to be from a decent place as well. This is not a hate thread of any kind.