A reaffirmation and reminder of rule 2

OP "asked"

how you could invoke "remove kebab" without it being racist.

and I provided an answer.

meme is only a silly meme

yes...but OP is explicitly arguing this is not a silly meme. I'd responding to that. "I think it's something people obviously can either find reasonably offensive (given my understanding of its origins)"... and I don't have a problem with people lobbying to decrease the meme's use or standing. Efforts to highlight the terms' origins have (in my opinion) already lead to some level of decrease in that term's use.


Ironically, I generally agree that quietly buried is the correct approach. I'm not really sure why the paradox plaza solution qualifies as "quietly."

I've generally been on the opposite side to you on this longstanding question of moderation policy and I remain so due to concerns over second order effects, future slippery slope concerns, etc. but I'm not talking about that here. I'm just trying to get people to realize the problems with basically calling people evil because they're placing the use of the meme in the wrong historical context.

I don't see this as an example of a "quiet" burial but I think "quiet burials" are actually the optimal way to go in a lot of things that have "problematic origins" but I find the analogy utterly obscene. This is a long running and ultimately utterly pointless argument about small changes in moderation for a random video game forum (that doesn't mean we can't have strong opinions on it!). People are bringing the bloody bodies of 50 people murdered in a terrorist attack to "win/reopen this fight? WTF?!? No, this act of mass murder doesn't help us figure out if an already moderated forum should has 10% more moderation or should retain the current levels.

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