People don't still believe this do they? Half an apple and a twinkie have a similar amount of sugar, but not only does the type of sugar matter, but the ingredients or make up of the food accompanying it. We all know sugar from processed foods comes from plants anyways, I think you're missing the point entirely. And "natural" sugar, as in brown or raw etc, is ever so slightly more healthy for you than bleached white sugar. Pesticides are also relevant.

You hear a similar argument with "I can eat 1200 calories from 7/11 and still lose weight, healthy food doesn't matter or it doesn't matter where you get your calories from when trying to lose weight" thats pretty ridiculous right? For obvious reasons? That's how that "all sugars are the same" argument sounds, it also just isn't true but I see someone already went the

The whole "natural is a scam" attitude is too broadly detracting a nuanced issue which has different context in every product and brand it is used in. Don't oversimplify it, the word natural does not automatically mean problematic. I don't know why people get off on being overly critical about healthy food. Similar thing again, with the anti-non GMO people. They conveniently ignore the many reasons supporting GMO isn't great in favor of an idiotic argument about ruby red grapefruits that is virtually meaningless, and think it's an automatic win.

Same thing with "organic farming actually bad" and "farming meat takes less resources than growing vegetables" and all of the reddit popculture food arguments.

People who are defensive about conventional foods often lose sight of the forest for the trees. Some eat local, eat organic types can be this way, but it pales in comparison to the people who argue for highly processed and inorganic food.

We have such an unhealthy relationship with food, where it comes from, how it is made, who grows it and processes it, how it is grown, how it impacts our environment, how it supports or destroys our health and our gut bacteria, ethical issues... I could go on.

Vaugely arguing for conventional foods is just shooting us all in the foot.

How do you not look around and see the sick and ailing health the western world is in, and then look at countries who have a healthier more hands on relationship with food and not see the massive differences.