Your idea of "good" and mine differ for sure, or you chose maybe the not the right word? Either way, I have no hate for any soundbar (well, okay some are just pure garbage), it is just that a true 'theater' will always have a bunch of speakers, lots of bass, and use awesome receivers, amps, etc. So that is what I think most of us agree a "Home Theater" should have. Now, I just heard from someone that I trust with my life, and who has been an HT Mentor of mine, that after listening to the new LG Demo at CES, he was going to get that same TV/Atmos SB Set-up for his bedroom. That says a lot. Still, I still stand by my thought that we should generally "draw a line in the sand" about these Soundbars, because let's face it, soon they will outnumber us "OG Audiophiles" 10:1, and this sub would eventually end up being the opposite of what I think most of us want it to be. I am totally drunk and listening to AC/DC at full blast so tomorrow I might just wake up and erase this comment out of sheer embarrassment (this happens quite a bit when Drink and Reddit).