Response to "Deathticles" regarding adoption trafficking:

"Deathticles" obviously never thought I would see her reply, as I'm not a Reddit regular. She probably wouldn't have shown her ass if she knew it'd be handed to her. Her emotional reply to my older post she re-posted above:

This is not about abortion. You are the only one who mentioned that as an alternative. Abortion is an alternative, and a common one at that. It doesn't matter if I'm the only one who mentioned it between the two of us, because as an alternative it is implied on this sub, although it is often unwritten because this sub exists to support adoption. It's a false dichotomy fallacy to assume adoption is the only alternate to abortion. You've misconstrued my words again. You seem reasonably articulate, so I'd ask that you refrain from purposefully misinterpreting what I've written in an attempt to further justify your cause in your own eyes. Additionally, nobody sees the birth of a child as a dichotomy between adoption and abortion - because the vast majority of births are met with the third decision: to keep the child with the biological family. I provided plenty of links to the research literature I referenced. Please re-read my posts for all information you requested. Also, you will find more peer-reviewed journals on our sites, which are linked to Saving Our Sisters. No, you provided a link to your own organization's Facebook page, as well as a link to your own organization's Youtube channel. These obviously aren't scholarly, reliable, or neutral sources for your own arguments. The third link you posted was a legitimate source, but one that stated biological facts. You then wrote two opinions that were not written in the source. If "peer-reviewed journals" of a scientific origin specifically state or summarize your thesis statement, then you can claim that you have peer-reviewed sources. If you can only quote a fact from a source, and then have to write your own opinions without any support, you are making it up. You may be right, but you don't have peer-reviewed sources any longer. Please ask yourself why you would find a post wanting to help keep mommy and baby together, instead of allowing financial duress to rip them apart, hurtful to you when it's not about you? Why did you take that so personally? Your post demonstrates an enormous amount of ignorance surrounding the concept of adoption. You attempted to frighten and shame the OP into not giving their child up for adoption with the same way fervor that many religions attempt to use to frighten and shame their zealots. You then suggest that I look at personal accounts on your Youtube site. You're literally asking me to accept second-hand, cherry-picked anecdotal evidence from a biased source instead of finding hard evidence. Even if I agreed with your sentiments, the method with which you attempted to coerce me would make me uneasy to support you. I take it personally, because you have ignored the perspective of the child while claiming you understand it better than others, again while sourcing only yourself. By calling adoption a "living death", you have insulted and patronized all adoptees everywhere. Adoptees do not have it easy in life, that much is true. But the thing is, which you have conveniently forgotten, we're almost always in better circumstances for being adopted. We are born into families that cannot support us, and no matter how much you think of adoption as a "living death", I can promise you the very real deaths we would have faced from starvation, disease, and true abandonment are far worse horrors than the ones you are imagining. I must say that the worst part of our conversation, however, is that I can tell you really care about the children, as well as the mothers. I implore you to keep that passion alive, even as I must assure you that you possess a horribly misguided, cult-like hatred of a beautiful opportunity for families and children alike. And feel free to reach out to us! Have a good evening. You as well, I truly (without sarcasm or spite) hope you will speak with me again.

/r/Adoption Thread Parent