For example, Jeffrey Dahmer was too ashamed to go to psychiatric help for the urges he had of being homosexual and attracted to dead bodies, but of the stigmas and laws surrounding these things. And because of that, he got too drunk one night and killed someone.

This was said by "Rotkreuz" in his response to me. What do you notice? If you read one of my paragraphs I said:

"Another great example is how liberals tend to come to defense of a criminal after the criminal is protrayed as a "victim."I'm being sarcastic here but get someone who murdered, make a editorial piece discussing how the murderee as a child saw his mom have zero respect for the environment which then caused the child to grow up with no respect to human life...and liberals will begin to view the murderer as a "victim," nearly indistinguishable as the person who got murdered."

Noticed how he fell for exactly what I said liberals tend to ALWAYS fall for... "victimization."

His rational is very typical as well,

"It doesn't make it okay, not by a long shot. But had he received the help he needed, he probably would never have killed anyone."

Where I could use my sarcastic example and build on it with "if that murderer would never had seen his mother disrespect the environment, the murderer would had respect human kind." "Rotkreuz" is leading with phrase that presents itself as he is zero tolerance to what Jeffery Dahmer did but then follows with way to portray Dahmer as a "victim," of not being able find counseling.

Counseling doesn't prevent crimes better than consequences. Counseling only helps those who are "normal" with their rationalization which kidnappers, murders, rapists, etc don't have.