[Serious] UK citizens, what is your stance on the Brexit vote, and why?

I'm 17 and live in England. I don't get to vote even though I'm one of the people who will have to put up the consequences of the referendum for a good portion of my life. I haven't paid a ton of attention to all the debates and all, but what I have gathered is this:

If we leave, I will need a visa to travel and visit different countries. That's fine and all, hasn't stopped anyone in other countries out of the EU, but I'm at a point in my life where I'm starting to look at universities and apprenticeships, and my international options might well be reduced significantly. It's probably not going to make a huge difference for me, because I'm hardly about to pop off to study in Germany with my C at GCSE, but Lord knows how we could afford to get into the Netherlands for a lads trip to Amsterdam.

I've also gathered that there seems to be some big idea about leaving the EU affecting immigration, and that somehow if we leave it will stop everyone trying to come over. I'm pretty sure this isn't true, since only something like 25-30% of immigrants are from the EU, and leaving would just make it harder for those guys. I know this figure likely isn't correct, but I heard it somewhere and don't remember the exact number, just that the majority of migrants aren't from the away. Anyway, I think the deal with immigration is also being impacted by the whole business with Syria and the refugees. As far as I can tell, there seems to be this idea that if we leave the EU we wouldn't have to take as many refugees in. I could well be wrong here, but I'm pretty sure that if we leave we're still just as likely to take a large amount of refugees in since they still need help and we're in a position to give it. Just because we don't have the EU telling us to take them in, doesn't mean our government will just say "you know what, we don't have to do anything" because it's still what we should be doing and the government know that.

As well as all that, the leave campaign is being headed by Boris and Nigel Farage, and I wouldn't trust either of them as far as I could throw them.

I think another big part of it is the business with the NHS and other services. Things like how the NHS is being overwhelmed and that's why there are long queues in A&E, that whole lot. Well, I had never really considered it but isn't that because a lot of people misuse the entire service? I could well be wrong, but I thought people did shit like going to A&E for a sniffle, and that isn't helping. So surely to help out the NHS, instead of leaving the EU shouldn't we just be educating people about the whole purpose of the NHS and what to go to different services for

The entire thing with leaving is also supposed to be giving us a whole lot more freedom with our spending and budget, but I always thought that was mostly dictated by our government anyway. Plus, if we leave the EU we won't have to pay that big members fee every so often, but then we wouldn't be part of the single market so we would have to pay roughly the same amount to get back into the single market, else we could expect our economy to crash. So, isn't it better to pay the money and be included automatically and have a say in how things get run, than to pay the fees anyway but not have a say?

The last thing I think I've heard about is that the entire point of the EU is to unite Europe and help everyone stay governed properly and all. With the threat from terrorist groups and the like, surely it's better for us to be united and working together than to be split up and working separately against threats like IS. Yes, we could still be working with the militaries of other nations, and we could still deal with them, but it must be easier to fight against any threats posed if we are all working together as part of the EU.

I expect a lot of this may be incorrect, but I'm not sure how much anyone knows about the whole business of what will happen if we leave. I know a lot of the points I've raised are very pro-stay, but that's because that's what I believe we should do. I also know that I might not have argued them fairly and may not know everything to be known about what will happen, but like I say, I've not been paying attention to debates and all since I don't get a say.

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