Short but intense slapfight in /r/religion when a user claims religion is a mental illness.

Being at odds with the scientific consensus seems like a good reason to think someone is wrong.

Your vague opinions and misunderstanding of the usage of quotes aren't a scientific consensus.

But if we were to say that being atheist was a mental disorder, or being employed was a mental disorder, or being married was a mental disorder, we'd be factually and unarguably wrong.

It's clear you don't really understand what the term mental disorders means, nor that you're being unnecessarily pedantic and completely irrational about how it's being used. You don't understand the nuanced scientific issues you're raising. You're not using even a single bit of science because science doesn't support irrational interpretations and arguments like yours. You're just masquerading ignorance as science by saying science a lot.

You believe that science says that all religious people are mentally ill - I don't think you have even the weakest grasp of basic science.

Are you lying in this statement or are you irrationally confused? You've both changed the terminology, which you clearly don't understand, and attributed beliefs to me which I never stated. You're saying things which are factually and scientifically incorrect, always overly vague because you don't actually understand what you're talking about.

At no point have I claimed consensus over a Carlin quote.

Well yes, you did. All of this is over your vague and ignorant claim of a scientific consensus over something you don't even understand and can't even be specific about. You're not really talking about science, you're just expressing your own ignorance over the issue.

2) I asked how he'd respond to the fact that the scientific consensus disagrees (which is does, as nobody accepts that all religious people are mentally ill and the DSM explicitly excludes it).

Again, you're being overly vague and ignorant. Do you know what the DSM is, how it's decided on, and the actual science (or lack thereof) that goes into it? Cults absolutely have been a topic of study when it comes to mental disorder, and it's been an issue raised with the DSM on how to capture the mentally disordered behavior seen there. It doesn't "explicitly exclude" religious people or religions from mentally disordered behavior and beliefs, nor is it a scientific consensus. It's an evolving document with it's own history problems and criticism, and misusing it, as you're doing, is unscientific and ignorant.

Like I said, you don't understand the science. You're just using the word science to mask your own ignorance.

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