SNP could hold independence referendum if it wins in 2016 | Politics

So, let's pick your shite apart bit by bit shall we?

Because they are undemocratic,hateful,lying,deluded wankers.

They are doing what they believe in. Would an undemocratic party opt for proportional representation over FPTP when setting up the Scottish Parliament? Would a hateful party stop and talk to their constituents rather than outright ignoring them, and repeatedly enlist the media to smear smaller parties they don't like? I admit they lie, but they lie far, far less than the main Westminster parties who produce a constant stream of bullshit day in day out.

No, they won't shut up about another referendum when Scotland clearly rejected it; 400,000 more people voted no than yes.

One, they've barely made a peep about it since September, unless of course you believe what you read in the daily propagandanewspapers. Two, each Scottish polling area bar a few actually returned relatively even results. Over 59 areas, a few percent here and there adds up.

They're also trying to lock the Tories out of government, which will be just a middle finger to the democratic wishes of much of England.

So are Labour. Is that a middle finger to the democratic wishes of just one of four constituent parts of the UK? No. It's just how the system works. For what it's worth, they are looking at a minority at this election: them getting in would be more of a fuck you to the democratic wishes of the rest of England.

That's the undemocratic bit. The lying bit is how they, I don't know, fucking lied about oil revenues (Telegraph link. *Seriously?*) and the £12 bn hole in Scotland's finances (Herald link).

At least use a relatively unbiased source for your numbers. There are lies, damn lies and statistics. Both the SNP and mainstream parties are just as guilty of misusing statistics to support their argument. And £12bn in a year? That's how much the UK-wide debt grows in six weeks.

Of course, what I'm going to get in return is how I'm a cunt and a lefty (hah) sweaty Jock (despite originally being from middle England) who is going to bankrupt this country with his socialist-communist viewpoint (hah again) and that I should go and shoot myself.

But sure. George Osborne can do no wrong. Keep listening and obeying. There's a good citizen.

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