Some days I’m a great flirt, and other days my game is just totally not there. Anyone else experience this?

Believe it or not, sex is one of the main drivers and motivators for humans. Almost everything we do is in pursuit of sex

this is a toxic belief. it would not surprise me if a few thousands years from now when we colonize the solar system the government eventually banned sex altogether and set up an ultimate breeding procedure involving highly qualified males to register for a license in order to impregnate highly qualified females who must also register for a license. at that point, humans who aren't allowed to have sex are not suddenly going to be like "ah man, fuck. I guess I'm worthless now." they will continue to find fulfillment in their own way. you can thrive and want to serve a greater purpose through your own will, this is evidenced by the fact that it happens all the time.

it's possible to have casual sex without either party wanting children

yes, this is called what I was referring to as unproductive sex i.e. timewasting. you are being driven into a limbo like a moth to flame, confused by your own hormones. this is a common malfunction of the average human being, and it is inevitable in a species who have largely populated the entire planet and all of it's vacancy. in a million years, through evolution, we likely will have very low sex drives as it is no longer required.

improving your game and SMV as a man (sexual market value)

disgusting. who is teaching you this nonsense? there is no such thing.

you are very very unlikely to notice any difference in how women act around you

yes because the average human being is essentially a heaping pile of shit. if you are an average human being and you refuse to stop being average then obviously no woman will want you unless you somehow really good at lying and manipulating her into wanting you, which is dishonest, stupid, and a HUGE fucking waste of time, because the only types of girls who would fall for that are other average girls. you're essentially being driven to have sex for no reason. what are you gaining by doing all this? nothing. except increasing the amount of stupid in the human population pool when you inevitably impregnate the girl because it is unavoidable.

This is a defeatist mentality. So men who are unattractive should just give up on trying to ever find sexual partner(s), that's what you're suggesting.

like I said in my initial post, you are afraid of losing in a game that isn't real. you're stuck in sexual limbo. it is your duty as a man to realize what you're worth. you should give up on actively pursuing sexual partners regardless of how attractive you are. sex in itself is completely fucking pointless unless you consider yourself to be valuable and you meet a valuable woman who you want to impregnate in order to create an even more valuable offspring.

there are multiple layers of attraction. you rarely see a highly successful human male alone without any pussy around him. women flock to him because he has proven himself to be valuable, therefore attractive. even if he's ugly in his physical form. he has some sort of worth. human male value is not measured in black and white. it has many spectrums, and it's not all about physical attraction. any girl will tell you the same thing.

you should not feel unhappy if you realize you are a piece of shit and can't have sex. it should have 0 impact on your mentality in any way. you should simply continue to exist and live your life to the fullest regardless of whether you have any pussy or not. mother nature has a convenient way of pairing up human beings by giving human females the ability to dictate whether a man is suitable or not. if you thrive - attractive or not, you will likely end up having sex with a woman who perceives that you are valuable without needing to aggressively hunt for them like a wild animal.

Why must every goal, in your opinion, be driven by some sort of insecurity? What if I'm just inspired to work on this particular aspect of myself, to be the best that I possibly can and prove people like you wrong?

this is the natural conclusion that I arrive at because the action to pursue having unproductive sex has no usefulness whatsoever, therefore the reasoning must be arbitrary.

you are not working on being the best that you can if you are spending time developing a strategy for sleeping with strange women. you are in sexual limbo. wasting your own time, like a moth to a flame. I've said this already, so just emphasizing on that point.

How do you define the value of a human being? Aren't all human beings valuable? Or are you discriminating them based on their interests and habits, and trying to claim people like me aren't valuable because we pursue women?

there's a spectrum of attractiveness, which I've already talked about. attractiveness and value are the same thing. yes, all human beings are valuable. that doesn't mean they are equally valuable. a criminal is valuable in the sense that he can commit a crime, and then humanity will deal with the criminal and gain experience in dealing with hostile anomalies inside the species, like a white blood cell attacking a virus. cooks, musicians, actors, writers, are valuable because they provide relief and support to the rest of the humans. doctors tend to the wounded. scientists dedicate themselves to progress. etc. if you are physically attractive via toned muscles and that is your only role in this world is to be attractive with your muscles, your offspring are likely to be strong and that can be seen as a sort of value in itself. strength is not entirely useless in todays world, but it is becoming increasingly irrelevant. if your face is fucked up due to a deformity then you are less valuable because your appearance is indicating that your genes are not good. that does not mean that you can't bang a hot girl. it means that physical attractiveness is not your strong suit. that doesn't mean go to r/seduction and learn how to bang stupid, gullible, low quality girls as easily and efficiently as possible.

if you are a human being who is stuck in sexual limbo pursuing sex for the sake of having sex then I would say you are contributing negatively in spectrum of value because you are literally doing absolutely fucking nothing useful whatsoever in that except increasing the likelihood of a low-quality infant being born. there is nothing attractive or valuable about a man dedicating his precious time into devising strategies for easily having sex for the sake of sex.

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