Sweeping ban on semiautomatic weapons takes effect in New Zealand

Canada has a more culturally diverse population. Not an ethnically diverse one. And 100% of the time, people mean ethnically diverse when diversity is mentioned, unless states otherwise.

And the fact that gun violence is highest, in practically every country in the world, including the US, where races are segregated, should demonstrate "race" isn't the problem. Oh wait, that's right, you think the statistics are just made up and you know better where the violence is because you follow the news.

Don’t tell me what I mean to say. There is what I mean to say and what you think I mean to say. Which in this case, you’re wrong.

I'm telling you exactly what you said. If that isn't what you meant, that's your problem. I mean, you didn't start this thread, that means someone else gave an opinion and you jumped in with yours. I replied to you, in a public forum, and your response was if I'm not American I don't get to have an opinion on American policies because you wouldn't do so. But as you pointed out, you aren't all Americans. And many Americans do give their opinions on other countries policies. Because, as I've said, we try to learn from each other. You said, "I'm not all Americans" and "I'm not generalizing". I literally repeated what you said, condensed. If that's not what you meant, that's your problem. And frankly, giving your opinion on a public forum and then telling people they aren't allowed to give counterpoints is absolutely insane. If you don't want to be debated, keep your opinion to yourself. Where someone is from is 100% irrelevant as long as they are educated and knowledgeable about the subject. You can't just dismiss them because you assume if they aren't from there, they don't know what they're talking about.

You say you think gun control would 100% work the way it has in smaller, less ethnically diverse countries. I say focusing on the mental health aspect of our country would greatly reduce non-come related deaths. We’re both unwilling to come to compromise.

No, that's not at all what I said. Now who is changing words around? I said gun control is proven to work elsewhere, it would work here too. I never said it should work "the same", only that it would indeed work. It's worked in 100% of the places that have it. Why you think the US is magic and it wouldn't work is beyond me. I mean, it's literally never been tried without cramming a handful of loopholes into it in the US. But the places that are trying their best despite in the US, on average, are seeing a lot of success.

I mean, people go on about California... It's got less than 8 gun deaths per 100k residents. The National average is 12. Alaska, the state with the weakest gun control, is 25. It's literally working in the US Airways, just with reduced efficiency. Will it work "the same"? No. The US will obviously still have higher gun violence for cultural reasons, much like how Japan has a crazy high suicide rate... But it didn't have to work the same to be worth doing.

And I absolutely am willing to compromise. By all means, quote where I said, "Do not make any attempts to improve mental health". In fact, it's your first time mentioning it to me. I fully support mental health programs. Would be great to see America get adequate medical health too. But sadly the GOP likes to invent boogie men to avoid any effective form of health care. Obama tried socialized health care and he couldn't get it past the Senate. Now they're demonizing Democratic candidate's health care ideas with the same bullshit arguments.

Why are we still arguing?

I mean, feel free to stop replying if you don't want to debate anymore.

I know why I don’t want there to be a gun ban (which yes, when you say you want ban on just semi-autos, means basically every gun).

I've never once said I supported a ban on semi-automatics. I have always commented on gun control in general terms. So stop moving the goalpost.

Why don’t you want to focus our attention on fixing mental health?

Yeah, right. It costs tens of thousands to have a baby without health insurance, but you think we'll get mental health care to a workable level in some of the poorest parts of the country? I'm all for getting better mental health care, but that's going to take decades and decades to implement. Meanwhile we could have universal background checks and red flag laws tomorrow. And don't pretend that isn't what we're talking, you can go back to my 2nd or 3rd reply to you and see I clearly said: "Gun control I'm taking about it universal backround checks, red flag laws, etc. It is not a gun ban." You were perfectly happy to accept that was the topic of the discussion then, so don't pretend it hasn't been that all along and make some crazy reply like, "The OP is about a semi-automatic ban".

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