A system with different melee characters?

Bad criticism here - look at how much more there is on powers and combat in WoD than how to play a character, or how to set up "social" encounters. They expect you to now how to play a reasonable person, just the same as D&D expects you to know how people act, with notes in the various races about how they act differently to humans.

Not really. V:TM core rulebook has a setting chapter that is longer than either the combat chapter (only 12 pages on combat) or the disciplines chapter. If you look at the story teller section it tells you what kind of themes and stories that game tells the best. It does tell you about the power structure, the theme of loss etc... the pathfinder core rulebook sets up a clear example of combat by CR. Suggestions on how to change the car based on other factors like terrain or numbers etc.... The combat chapter is the Longest chapter in the book. Pathfinder is clearly focused on tactical combat.

As for your roleplay cr explanation the bit about wealth by level is completely ignored with regard to rp encounters. So yeah if I play a scene where I am trying to complete a task for someone sure I could get wealth by level. However that goes right out the window of plausibility when I am say helping a poor innocent man stand trial and get a not guilty verdict. If I am his advocate I get paid by the poor pauper. If I am level 1 the party should get somewhere between 170-400 gold for this. Gold I know he doesn't have. Am I to assume he just happens to have an heirloom worth that much that he wouldn't sell to get himself an advocate instead of lucking up and finding me. The only reason wealth by level exists is because the characters are supposed to get more money to buy better adventuring gear so they can go get more wealth and so on. The only things that keep going up in price in the core rulebook are, all the magic items. Primarily magic weapons and armor. So wealth by level exists is to earn more items to get better at fighting. I would say this is a fair criticism of the game.

As for Vampire games devolving into combat/power fests. I don't really see the combat heavy WoD game often. As for the powers. Yeah I can see them getting used often but in defense it is often to avoid combat.

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