The Terrarian (Terraria) vs Destiny Guardian (Destiny 2)

I don’t think teleportation is considered speed, besides, guardians can react to teleportation units as well

I doubt that for a few reasons, especially if an ambush is involved from the Terrarians.

Guardians have gotten killed by less than FTL forces before.

Also, using the Rod of Harmony does actually add speed to the Terrarian (from personal experience), not sure how much, but the best way to think about it is like Blink from Dishonored but allowing the character to teleport through walls.

They are capable of running across most of mars in just about a few minutes from Meridian Bay to Mount Olympia where the Black Garden is

Decided to look this up and not only do I see no mention of it (looked up how fast Guardians can run), I also got interesting documentation of players trying to find out Guardian ground speed and coming to around 26-28 mph, which is slower than the Terrarian's 34mph.

Can I have a link to that being the case? Because I've never seen Guardians in a cutscene move anywhere close to that fast.

They can even react to lasers

So have the Terrarians, laser probes, laser machine guns, laser rifles, Skeletron Prime's laser, the Twins laser, the Ray Gunner, etc.

Guardians have been hit and killed by non-FTL weapons before.

even outpace a ghost light beam which can move in and out of black holes, that would require FTL speeds

May I have the citation for this?

For durability, Guardians are capable of taking hits from beings who can destroy stellar sized objects.

Then explain a few things to me:

How come Cayde-6, Zavala, and the Drifter died to items or weapons nowhere close in terms of these powers, or even starvation?

Also, if that is the case, then why is Zavala hiding from the Cabal weapons if they can tank that much power? Why did he also deflect the shot from a Psion Sniper if he could've just tanked it?

They know they can resurrect infinitely without harm to their ghost. They know they can tank these hits. So why doesn't Zavala just tank them and kill the Cabal easily?

Zavala was not at his best at that point, even Fallen are tough taking on Hive Knights who scarred entire worlds.

What do you mean "Zavala was not at his best at that point?" The point I was trying to make was that, without armor, Guardians can die to non-paracasual weapons, it's proven in that cutscene. Heck, he even picks up the firearm that killed him, which looks to be something akin to an M16 or M14, which is typically chambered in 5.56 and 7.62 respectively.

I also believe you are mentioning Cayde's story about how a Fallen was able to kill a Hive Knight. A singular Hive Knight, at great risk to herself, and almost dying to her injuries from the fighting. It also doesn't say what type of Knight it was. We also don't know how strong that Fallen was if she was stronger than the rest, etc (in fact, since she was able to kill one without the Light, this easily proves that the Terrarian would be able to wreak havoc amongst Hive Knights with their own weapons and abilities).

Are there more stories involving Fallen killing Hive Knights? Because so far that is the only one I can find.

There are Guardians who can survive hits from beings who created or affect entire universes, that are also higher dimensional or scale to.

With how Zavala acts around being shot and how Cayde-6 was insta-killed from a single shot to the head, I don't really believe that.

Heck, one of the strongest Worms, Xol, second only to the Darkness itself in the Hive Pantheon, was killed by Rasputin and the Guardians. I have a feeling that the Valkyr Javelin is nowhere close to leveling cities in a single throw or destroying entire universes.

The raids and bosses involving those characters (who were heavily weakened as mentioned previously) were also deemed extremely dangerous, even to the PC Guardian.

Heck, the only character that seems to scale anywhere close to your idea of "higher dimensional" would be the Witness, and it's very easy to show just how outmatched they are against it.

Oryx was able to create a pocket universe and so was Savathuun and Crota. However, since they could barely affect the outside world with their magic, I would not really consider them to be anywhere close to "affecting entire universes" considering the only universes they could is their own.

With all that, I'm going to be honest, I do not think these characters scale anywhere close to those beings (as mentioned before, the Guardians didn't just straight-up fight them head-on while they were fully powered. They had to be smart with their tactics and weaken them or find their weaknesses).

I don’t think Nebula scales to Nova Bomb as they possess the energy of collapsing stars.

Gonna be honest, that seems more like a nickname than anything else, considering it doesn't follow any of the destructive powers of an actual Nova Bomb. Even the description doesn't really point toward it having "the energy of collapsing stars." Simply, it is stating it harnesses a small amount of the Traveler's light and has a large explosion, nothing Nova about it.

If it was an actual Nova Bomb, the planets and sun would no longer be around in the Destiny Solar System with how many Warlocks there are.

Wouldn’t take Star Wrath seriously as those can’t be the size of stars.

Who knows, maybe it condenses the stars down so that they don't have giant celestial bodies ramming into a living planet?

Terraria has weird lore, and a lot of it is up to interpretation.

Overall, I am not convinced that the Guardians would be able to defeat the Terrarians.

I've seen Guardians fall to less-than-ftl and less-than-universal weapons before, and with the weapons that the Terrarians are packing, I think the Terrarians would be able to kill the Guardians, one-on-one and in the group battle. The only round that would be close would be the PC character fighting against them.

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