Thelema, A∴A∴ and Tradition.

If you had any familiarity with the groups we've been talking about, even with their published writings, then you'd know that these people hold these beliefs.

Since we're not going to get anywhere, I'll just leave it at this. Your entire understanding of this topic is based on assumptions. This is a great example, here. You don't know anything about me, about my relationship with the organizations you're speaking for, or with the people whose beliefs you profess to know.

I doubt I'll get through with this, which is honestly understandable since I've been relentlessly insulting you and you're full-on in defensiveness-land, so I get it. But if there's even a tiny bit of non-ego-oriented awareness operating while you read this last (before I delete them all) comment, let it attend to this:

The things you have claimed to have knowledge about, you don't actually have knowledge about. I understand where you're coming from with the anti-supernaturalism thing, and I'll even give you a tidbit (prepare yourself!): I agree with you. The fact is, you're just wrong about what they teach, and what they believe. I am saying this not from deduction but from actual direct knowledge. I am only mentioning this because I'm hoping (actually, this time) that you'll pause for a moment, and consider what do you actually know, and how do you actually know it. Please don't respond to that here. If you decide to sincerely consider this, then kudos to you. If you don't, no worries.

Despite all the insults, shit-slinging, and flaming, I wish you luck and fortitude in your quest for self-knowledge, and most of all, I hope you find the courage to honestly and critically examine your beliefs, your direct-experiential-knowledge, and find the means to discern between the two.

Peace!

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