I also don't mind the course kicking my ass as I enjoy it much better then myself playing bad. I should of explained better, I wouldn't call it altruistic as me playing a part and helping them get the part is a part of the fun. I can't just go to a course and anytime a shit golfer makes a par get all excited. And I don't know what my goals or dreams with caddying would be. I know 0 high level stuff like making green books etc. I've only ever done a few practice rounds with really really good golfer and it was ay a course I know really well. So essentially my caddy advice was 0 golf stuff and just facts of tthe course and life convos. Unless a player just liked to talk a lot about golf and life and theories on them I have little value to them.. Honesty what I've found im good at is helping really bad golfer be not as bad and that's what I find the most fun. But my knowledge isn't enough where I know what I'm saying is what is supped to fix it or not. And that even if it fixed the issue it will cause more later. So that means not informed enough for lessons and probably not informed enough to caddy at competitive levels. But there's something about watching someone who is new get beat down by the course and then you help them and they look like a new golfer.