To those who really believe it's about "hating women"

Wait.. are you asserting that only women donated? Huh? And sure, why wouldn't a woman who's anti-feminist donate to a feminist group if she thought it would improve her image?

No. I brought up the fact that women in the movement are unlikely to hate women; a good chunk of Gamer-Gate is female filled, it's not a ''white male misogynist'' club. You responded by saying ''some women can have poor attitudes towards over women''.

You are making the ridiculous suggestion that the women in Gamer-Gate, are misogynist. You also said the women in Gamer-Gate can have a poor attitude towards Feminism; hence the fact that I brought up raising money for a Feminist organisation disproves that claim.

No... that's not what I said. You didn't finish the sentence? "Fringe organizations try to appear legitimate with charitable donations ALL THE TIME." That has nothing to do with Anita Sarkeesian.

You brought up that they try to appear legitimate: assuming you are anti (which is highly likely, given that you banned me for holding an opinion), I brought up that your figurehead, Anita Sarkeesian tried to ''appear'' legitimate by lying.

This brings up another point, if Gamer-Gaters 'hated' women, then why would they help raise as much as $60k to help women? The definition of misogyny is a hatred for women; someone who hates women, will not logically raise money to help them because that neglects their ''misogyny''.

What? Why not? A woman who is anti-feminist can sure as hell donate to a feminist cause if she has ulterior motives. I layed out those motives in my previous comment. I'm beginning to think you aren't actually reading my comments.

Sure, an anti-Feminist can do that. But Gamer-Gate as a whole, also supported CH Sommers, a self-described Feminism. But by the anti-GG narrative, GG didn't support the ''right kind'' of Feminist. GG endorsed CH Sommers; she is an equity Feminist with a P.H.D --- there are different types of Feminists. Many in Gamer-Gate are not proponents of third wave Feminists; hence they prefer the term equity Feminism, the term Feminism has become diluted and disjointed over the years due to radicalism.

But that's the argument I'm using; I'm tackling the claim that Gamer-Gate is about hating women. You need to read my comments; my very first comment is a response which disproves the claim that Gamer-Gate is a misogynist movement. Women in Gamer-Gate are not misogynist, it'd make no fucking sense.

Um.. I'm not going to say all of them. And "hate" is much too strong a word for it. But it's quite possible for a woman to have negative attitudes about other women and feminism. It's not even that uncommon. You never heard a woman say something like "she had it coming" or anything? Women, just like men, can have poor attitudes towards women.

Again, you need to stop cherry-picking. Many Gators hate 3rd Wave Feminists; they do not hate the idea of gender equality. Yes, you'll say ''Feminism is about equality!'' however the term has been browbeaten and diluted over the years by radical Feminists. A Liberal Feminist vastly differs in ideology to a rad-Fem yet they're painted under the same brush.

That's why Feminists like CH Sommers use the term 'equity' Feminist; to separate the strands. Gamer-Gaters, were evidently in support of it.

You keep saying ''Gamer-Gate can be against women!'' --- I'm waiting for actual proof that the majority of Gamer-Gate is a misogynistic and anti-woman movement.

It's not something that can be proven one way or the other

Oh, so you have no proof? You banned me, for posting a pro-Gamer Gate opinion yet YOU have no proof of any of the other rubbish claims that I was debunking on Negareddit? Wow...

The emphasis is on you to prove that most Gamer-Gaters are women-haters. You have made a claim, now substantiate it. Claims require evidence.


On that note, I asked you to provide evidence that the majority of Gamer-Gators are harassers. Do people in Gamer-Gate harass? Yes. But that's because anyone can use a hashtag, it's not representative of the majority which is what I want you to prove.

I can start, by showing that anti-Gamer Gate have statistically given out more threats and doxxes than Gamer-Gate.

Proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5zKunaiCQw

...Did you actually read those links?

Some of your sources are painfully bias, and most are just opinion pieces. Citing claims from Brianna Wu is not a valid argument, especially considering this woman sent threats to herself accidentally before covering it up.. Let's start with opinion pieces which echo what you claim ''cannot be proven either way''. A link to Giant-Bomb is just that, especially considering one of the writers who left Giant-Bomb were involved in GJP.

  • Anita Sarkeesian did not receive legitimate threats to cancel her talks. The Police force, deemed the threats illegitimate; and again. And again, do you have evidence that Wu left her home instead of her own claim with a ''trust and believe'' attitude? By this evidence-less logic, I'll link to this video and use it as a 'universal' truth. Cos...trust and believe!

  • Did you read the link? [NONE[(http://www.motherjones.com/media/2015/01/anita-sarkeesian-feminist-trolls-twitter) of those tweets aimed at Anita Sarkeesian are associated with Gamer-Gate.

  • Again. Do you watch what you post? This video had nothing to do with Gamer-Gate.. This man released one podcast on Gamer-Gate in September and the slant was that a Gamer-Gate victory would be bad.

  • Jesus fucking Christ. Are you reading what you post? This is from Neo-GAF. It's a PICTURE of several people related to Gamer-Gate, nothing here is a ''problem'' besides e-celeb drama.

  • Yet again, that was the headline of one Guardian article deeming Gamer-Gate as ''right wing'' ]despite the fact that most Gators are Left-Libertarians](http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/841/842/7e1.png). It was not an official designation.

  • Again, read what you are posting. He was asking a woman whether she supported trans people; she in response, did not recognize trans-women

  • I've said this too many times: read. 'Death to Brianna' has nothing to do with Gamer-Gate. The tag is not mentioned.. And again, were these threats verified as legitimate? Considering this is the same woman who sent threats to herself and deleted it.

  • Sigh. He was being sarcastic. Read from the bottom up.

  • Ironically, you bring up 8-Chan yet forget to mention that Srhbutts is a pedophile? Or the fact that he was advocating for it?. 8-Chan is not Gamer-Gate's favorite site, Reddit is. And what the owner of 8-Chan allows, is not accountable to Gamer-Gate.

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