TIL that in 2014 Korean Air vice president Heather Cho was so angry about receiving macadamia nuts in a bag instead of on a plate, she forced the plane to taxi back to gate and unload the offending flight attendant. "Nutgate" ended up costing her 5 months in jail

You sound upset, sorry if i made you angry. Just gonna respond with a few things.

I said it was an aviation thing. Not that it currently is, luckily. The accident happened in 1997. You can’t tell me things (human factors) were the same as they are today. What you mentioned in your post (basically, the gradient of command not being so steep, and the entire CRM concept) is something that is taught nowadays as a result of accidents (e.g. Tenerife), but even late 90s it wasn’t full-on what we have today. The accident report said the first officer hadn’t taken the CRM course.

I said it was an aviation thing also because it happened regardless of culture. I agree with the other poster that said the ‘korean culture aspect of not questioning superiors resembles what did happen in the cockpit’, but the same kind of things happened in u.s. or english carriers (not just, as you said “putting the boss in a pedestal). Lots of american captains were air force/military pilots and first officers were a zero to them, which made the f.o even more passive. That was a thing. That mentality existed. I know it is treated way better nowadays, but you seem to be implying it didn’t happen.

And last, unless you have 10+ years of aviation experience in both maintenance and flight, you can shut the fuck up.

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