Two types of LFG Guardians

If we refuse to share our experience, how will others improve and learn?

The real issue isn't sharing, but teaching, with them having the desire to learn/adapt.

Let me start by saying, I'm a terrible teacher, because I simply don't think that way. Having done all the raids a bunch of times, I know all these little tricks and secrets (things like radar shows you their location on VoG), but I rarely mention them because they're just common knowledge to me. In addition to that, I also don't care for people who act like I'm five and give me tons of information I already know, so I have the same mentality when helping others. This is why I usually just let someone else explain.

Anyway, the issue I see is people shying away from responsibility and the people with experience do the heavy lifting. When I was doing Atheon with randoms, there were very few people okay with picking up the relic. It was almost comical spawning in, grabbing it and seeing the other two shyly walking back and looking at me as if the relic was the check and neither wanted to pay.

In all three of my Atheon runs I ran relic and had it a good 30 to 50 percent of the time. Outside of two people (I had several wipes where none of the three people picked up the relic) in most runs, the only thing they learned was how to shoot one oracle and run out of the portal. Compared to the past, the challenge is actually easier/less work for the people in the portal and a completely different job for those outside of the portal.

So, if none of them are willing to pick up the relic, sword, do the daughter jump/Aksis (I've seen people literally kill themselves to get out of it), skip the Gorgon Maze/jumping puzzles, stand on a plate or grab gaze, there is only so much they can learn. Especially when I run into people who're so far into doing what they want, they'll use nova bombs against Atheon on a CM run and act like I'm a jerk for questioning it, because of how this community views things.

like anyone is really experienced after one clear!!

It depends how long that one run is /u/stoobie67 and their prior experience. If I do the challenge for three hours and clear it once, odds are I'll be more experienced than someone who did it three times without a single failure. This holds true for all the raid encounters. At least if you fail a bunch of different times, you learn what to do and what not to do and become better as a player. Like, the amount of time you have to destroy your oracle is far greater than a lot of people seem to act. Prolonged plays also increase the odds said person has touched the relic/understands the mechanics.

No offense to the "experienced" raiders out there, but I'm sure you could poll 100 people who've done something like King's Fall 10 times and some of them couldn't tell you basic mechanics. Such as why we stand on the plates we do for Warpriest, what it's like to hold gaze or that you can kill the daughters in whatever order you want and probably other things.

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