Is Ultimate spiritual realization the same as fully awakening the Kundalini?

You don't have to be a grouch, that isn't your identity anyways, unless you want it to be :)

Thank you for your response, though I'd encourage you to consider that your ego may be... a bit presumptuous and reading between lines where there are none.

This existence is absolutely beautiful to me, everything.

I should have been more communicative and direct, but instead I wanted to understand the members of this community and why they would alter their message (or rather the one in the sub's wiki) from encouraging a drug-free kundalini to one of "highly" discouraging drug use and drug use with kundalini as well as using generalizations and telling OPs their lives may be ruined...

To me, those two messages are completely and unequivocally different, and I simply wanted to understand this after seeing this message being repeated here more and more often over the past 6 months.

I think you, as a mod, should take a step back and consider how these two messages will influence newcomers coming to this subreddit looking for help. You may find the original intent, while certainly still not perfect, was/is more inviting, and didn't use presumptions or language that could cause unintentional harm... and if you'll (that is your ego) allow me, please consider that by taking the current course of action, it is highly likely that the language being used yields the potential--for the people coming here looking for help (potentially in a crisis and highly suggestive state)--for completely bypassing critical thought in those that seek out your advice. That walks the fine line of cultish behaviour.

What happened to the message of "but don't take my word for it, find out for yourself--[if you're willing to risk it]."?

/r/kundalini Thread Parent