Under Bill C-51, Bob Rae is a terrorist

Out of fairness, any posts actually sourced from the actual bill C-51 and the actual Criminal Code of Canada are ignored or downvoted. This subreddit has gone full retard, in that legitimate discussion about the actual contents of the bill from a statutory interpretation point of view are downvoted and ridiculed by people that don't read legislation more than once a year, if that. There are 15 year olds on /r/Canada posting in conspiracy-like tones about what this bill does do, when they do not have a clue about reading legislation.

Bill C-51 should be amended if it is going to be passed. Unfortunately, all of the areas of the bill that should be amended are not being discussed because people would rather upvote things that are flat out lies but much more sensational...such as OP's post. It's wrong. It is so clearly wrong that it is hard to believe anyone upvoting has read the legislation and understand how legal definitions work.

The fact someone engages in unlawful protest does not mean someone is engaging in an act that undermines the security of Canada. For it to even matter if the protest is lawful or unlawful, the act would first have to be included in anything that would be undermining the security of Canada. Rae did not -- he did not target a Canadian's property for destruction because they were Canadian; he did not threaten Canada's economic/financial security, in that the protest in no way threatened Canada's economy; he did not engage in any activity that would meet the definition of terrorism in the Criminal Code of Canada; he did nothing under that any lawyer or judge would be willing to stand in public and say that it could be interpreted as an activity that undermines the security of Canada.

OP is someone that may have read the bill, but certainly does not understand how a legal definition works.

Is there potential that some asshole at CSIS or the RCMP may try to interprete the legislation that way without consulting with the Department of Justice? Of course. That's why the bill needs to be amended -- it's pretty clear from the last ten years that we need reform in the oversight of CSIS and the RCMP. The bill should not be enacted without that.

But the fact we need better HR practices and then oversight of the RCMP & CSIS does not magically make OP's absurd and baseless assertions real. All /r/Canada is doing by upvoting shit like this is showing is how pathetic our education system has become.

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