Kill unarmed civilians, behead prisoners, start wars, kill for apostasy, kill Christians, kill Jews, kill Shias, kill other Muslims, commit terrorist acts, kill people based on their religion. Force convert people. Force marriage. Kidnapping. Arms trafficking.
Look at that, he killed civilians.
Ethnic cleansing of Jews.
Muhammed's use of slaves.
Murdering people who made jokes about him.
You realize right off the fucking bat your an islamophobic bigot right? Like what kind of fucking bullshit loaded question is that shit? And you expect me to believe you have any fucking understanding of Islam?
Throwing a tantrum wont help. Discuss like an adult or piss off with your childish insults.
And you know what, those Kurds are fighting for their fucking religion too, because ISIS would ban their practice, and put them to death for it. But they don't fucking count because you say so, of course. It is so incredibly hard to take you seriously when you pretend Muslims are repersented by ISIS but no the Kurds, because one is an insane fringe movement, and one isn't. And no, that is what your implying, not what I'm infering.
I never said all Muslims are to blamed for ISIS or that it is all of Islam. However, there is no pagan or Buddhist ISIS. Seems only to be Abrahamic religions that spawn theocrats.
You may remember me saying that it's dumb to blame ordinary people, it is the fault of absolutist religions and their justifications for war and tyranny.
Yes, they put him in, but blaming just America is simplistic
Execpt thats exactly what Khomeni did. He used the Shah as an example of how western influneces where destroying Iranian civilization. He used the Iranian hatred of the Shah, and turned that into hatred of the west and secularization, and pushed that into a very fundamentalist theocracy.
So, Khomeni = Iranian public opinion? really? don't associate me with that cunt. Most people didn't give a shit about America, it was the Shah's rule they loathed.
The fact that the American backed Shah was only put into power by a political coup played a huge part in how Iran percived his illegitimacy. And seeing as how before U.S. intervention, Iran was becoming more secular on their own, the
Iranian revolution would not of happened without U.S. intervention. So no, I can and will blame The U.S. for what happened before I blame Islam as a whole.
That's alternate history fantasy as there is no way to know what would happen. Mosadegh was a good guy but who knows what would have happened after him.
If you want to play alt' history, then if the Sassanids and Romans crushed Islamic armies in the 7th century, there would be no Islamic Republic. Or is speculation only ok when you like it?
Also you implies it was because of Islam, and you clearly believe it too, so why are you trying to deflect things?
It has not helped at all. Islam's good parts doesn't need Islam and is balanced by it's shit. Islam is over-represented in terrorism, theocracy and general violence in 2015. It's a shitty ethical system based on lies, spread by violence and does nothing to improve society. When societies become more educated, prosperous and peaceful people leave religion. The most religious places are the most oppressive, violent, uneducated and poor. Funny how that works.
You know what group is effected most by terrorism? Muslims. 87-93% of terrorism was done against Muslims according to the U.S..
I know this and it saddens me. I have relatives and friends in west Asia. Doesn't change that the perpetrators do it in the name of allah and think they will be rewarded for their violence.
You know what groups are fighting terrorists the most? Muslims.
Again, I know this. Wouldn't have to fight ISIS and Taliban if they didn't exist in the first place. Wouldn't need to die if nutcases thought blowing up schools and markets was performing allah's work.
These are problems that are either started or enhanced via Islam. No Islam, no Taliban, no ISIS, no Islamic Republic.
You know what group was most thoroughly fucked by the Cold War?
Africans, mate. They finally left colonialism only to fucked by dictators, economic exploitation and proxy wars from the superpowers. Westerners are very good at ruining other nations.
Did you know that Whahbisim, and that form of conservative right wing Islam is incredibly new, dating back 100 years or so? You keep fucking implying its all Islams fault.
Again, Wahabism would not exist if there was no Islam. Wahabism is new but you're wrong if you think religious fanaticism is a modern invention. Christian crusades and Islamic desecration of Hindu art centuries ago indicat this.
You can claim you don't but believe Islam is a fundamentally violent religion. Have you read the Quran?.
I have, have you? What do you think of this?
Have you spent decades learning about Islam?
Did you even take a class on it? Have yoi even been to a mosque?
Again yes, I live near one.
Your Islamophobia is fucking bigotry. Your a bigot. Period.
Childish insults indicate a lack of reasonable argument. I now wait for the inevitable "dae tag him as Nazi pedo fascist for disagreeing with me xDDDD???"
You can keep pretending to understand something most Muslims don't, but you are not Muslim,
you do not actually give a shit about Muslims,
I care about people who suffer.
you are just a hateful jackass who is grasping onto anything to justify your hatred.
CHildish presumptions and insults. Bring rationalism or go away.
Nowhere have you made any sort of actual critque of Islam,
I am willing and happy to debate religion with you. But only if you stop acting like a child.
We can bring this to /r/chagemyview if you like.
because you don't actually know anything about it beyond a very tenous grasp of bullshit you probably got from Islamophobic websites. I'm done. Your full of shit.
More insults and childishness.