You would rather see a murderer be punished than a murderer not commit a crime.

Correct!

Why have you never learnt to shut the fuck up after constantly being debunked due to you ignoring

Because of people like you who ignore innocent people being raped or killed by reoffending criminals because of some false sense of virtue. I won't stop speaking out against enablers like you. I'll keep supporting common sense politicians who want prison reform and a better rehabilitation system to help most criminals like they do in Norway, but with one exception of not allowing out the most dangerous criminals to be released.

In the end we'll see whose method is more progressive. My way or yours.