The league was absolutely shit after Fergie. The top teams were dire in Europe.
You mean the season where Chelsea were in the semi-final and United lost to Bayern in the quarter final? This sentence highlights multiple issues with your outlook. One single season does not define anything. Plus, getting knocked out in the last 16, 8 or semis doesn't make a team "shit". Plus, cycles happen in football and that is normal in a competitive environment. What is not normal is the same 2 teams perpetually dominant.
The likes of Liverpool were knocked out of group stages twice.
Relevance? They also won it and reached another final.
Barca and Madrid are forced to make routine investments because of fan pressure on the board that can change due to a bad season. There was no pressure on utd owners like that for a decade.
How exactly does this relate to whether La Liga is competitive? Remember those "bad" seasons are a top 3 finish and more often a top 2 finish.
And la liga and Segunda is quite literally littered with players as equal to or better than that.
Do you have to be so laughably over-the-top? The current set of English players 23 or under are an exceptionally talented group of players. It's the end product of similar work that happened in Spain and Germany at the start of the 21st century. As I said in my post, they were just examples of players aged 23 or under in England. The current England under 21 squad has players from Stoke City, West Brom, Norwich, Everton, Bournemouth, Fulham, Spurs, Watford, Crystal Palace, Burnley, Sheffield United etc. Look at the starting team for England in the 2018 World Cup semi final and you'll see a spread of players from clubs.
Again the fact that you use barca or Madrid as being propped up by government tells the vicious lies and propaganda spread by English media and fans out of sheer jeolousy towards those clubs. Surprisingly, actual criminal investments by abu dhabi and roman get ignored by them.
The English media quite regularly speak about foreign owners. It's ridiculous to claim otherwise. You're also deflecting now because you grandstanded about me talking "shit" and didn't like when I could post two clear examples. What exactly are you claiming as propaganda? What in the two articles I posted is incorrect? Was Spain not under a dictatorship? Did Real Madrid not benefit from that? Did Real Madrid not receive a massive financial boost in the 40s/50s? Look at the history of La Liga winners before that investment and try to tell me they grew "organically".
Then moving into the modern day and Barcelona. Is it a lie to claim "Bartomeu was arrested alongside the club’s chief executive and its top lawyer".. Real and Barcelona are paying for their greed in the early 21st century. If they had adopted a model similar to the Premier League, they would have a much better model to sell to TV companies as the league would be competitive. The Messi and Ronaldo rivalry covered that up but without that, it's just the same three playing musical chairs with no expectation of a rival.
There's no competition in pl when there are actual world class teams like peps city.
If there is no competition, why have 5 different teams won it in recent years with multiple others challenging in various seasons? If there is no competition, why are last year's winners now in 6th place scrambling to finish 4th? If there's no competition, why are the 2020/2021 Champions League finalists not certain that they will be in the 2021/22 edition? You also continue to use an interesting phrase of "Pep's City". That's quite telling as Pep is the key to their current spell. He is the difference maker. Yet despite that, City have finished second, third and fourth in recent seasons.
It was basically shit vs shit. Like the likes of mls is competitive or the Indian super league is competitive.
Laughable. As I said at the start of this post, getting knocked out in the last 16, 8 or semis doesn't make a team "shit". Some of the seasons you refer to involve seasons where English teams either won the Champions League or were in the final. I understand that you are upset that I am pointing out that a league where 30 times out of 35 it is won by one of two teams. But it is what it is. La Liga is indeed dominated by the winners of 30 of the last 35 leagues. In case you wondered why I went back 35 years, it is because that is the same period required to find 5 different winners of La Liga. 5 teams have won the Premier League in the last 10 years (United, Chelsea, City, Leicester and Liverpool).
PS please don't forget to show me where there lies and propaganda was in my post. Pointing out that English clubs were bought by vultures and for sportswashing purposes is not a response.