W.Va. lawmakers try to give teachers smaller raise, accidentally pass bill giving them full raise

Well, judging from your most recent response, I think this discussion is becoming untenable so I would like to leave with a brief meta discussion.

It is clear to me that you have never completed an engineering or STEM degree. Although, it may appear like rote memorization, from my experience that is not the case. Certainly, there is some memorization needed for all topics in life, but software and engineering are focused on solving new problems which is what makes it difficult. It is impossible to solve new problems with memorization alone. You need a deep intuition of the topic.

For example, I recently accepted an offer from a large LA tech company after 5 rounds of 2 hour interviews. Here are a few of the questions I encountered during the process.

  1. https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/check-for-balanced-parentheses-in-an-expression/
  2. https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/find-maximum-product-of-a-triplet-in-array/
  3. Design a scalable architecture for a service that shortens URLs
  4. Explain some tradeoffs of various components of the architecture from 3.

I had never seen any of these questions before, but I have studied software engineering and theoretical computer science to such a degree that I can find solutions to new problems in a rapid amount of time (under 10 minutes). It may be possible for some people to literally memorize all of the answers for an engineering exam, but in the real world that won't cut it and they will be weeded out quickly. In software, they wouldn't even be able to pass an interview.

I will also admit, that I have never been a teacher (although I have talked extensively with teachers as my sister, her husband, my grandma and many of my friends are teachers), and therefore there are potentially challenges that I truly don't understand. But I can't accept the reasoning that teaching is equally as difficult as engineering for the same reason that you can't accept that the reasoning that engineering is more difficult than teaching. Neither of us truly have a complete understanding of the others profession.

And this is something that kept me away from arguing for a long time, especially on reddit. The metapoint is this. No one here is truly qualified to make any of these arguments. All of the discussions taking place here are largely meaningless because they are based on inherent misunderstandings of the issue. I wish you could convince me one way or the other, but you've already shown that you don't have the understanding of the other side to make a real argument. So I'm just going to leave it here.

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