When MJ was backed up they came up with Ph2 Grob, turns out the people who went through it struggled far more in Ph3 and OTUs, now it's practically on life support.

2 CAD studied this claim, they found no evidence to support the idea that people who went Grob were failing or struggling on OTU at a higher rate than MJ. The claims about Grob seem to largely come from the weird MJ mentality that if you didn’t go through MJ you are somehow lesser. I don’t know if the Grob course is easier because I did MJ but that certainly doesn’t stop folks in MJ and Winnipeg who have this odd philosophical aversion to Grob from trying to kill it. Even after numerous attempts to kill it, Grob is hardly on life support considering they are putting full courses through it and are using the maximum number of spots that can be support by CFTS.