We've all heard the saying "Nice guys finish last", but is it also possible for nice girls to finish last?

I don't know where you get this idea that all men are told just to be "nice guys" in order to get women.

Well considering women tell men that their entire lives it's not hard to figure out.

My mom told my brother to take care of himself, treat all people with respect and be an interesting and funny person to be around.

"Be nice", "treat people with respect", potato, potahto.

Have you ever heard a dating advice lecture or conference which was over in 5 minutes because the lecturer just stood up, said "All you have to do is just be nice, that's it! You can pack it and go home now!"

These lectures wouldn't exist if men were given useful advice from the start.

This "just be nice" sounds like something moms or grandmas would tell their sons/grandsons to comfort them

It's also what women tell their male friends. Either some variation of "I wish my boyfriend as a nice/thoughtful/generous as you!" or if solicited for advice "Just be yourself. Be genuine. Treat her with respect. The right woman is out there for you when the stars align!"

if they can't separate a well-meaning but empty advice from their family members for whom they'll always be special and lovable from an actual, real-life advice, then it's their fucking fault.

Ho ho ho, you didn't wait long to jump on the "blame the 'nice guys'" bandwagon!

I'm sick as fuck of constantly being blamed and accused by men on this site for "giving them false advice". Never in my whole life have I ever told a guy he needs to "just be nice" to get women

Oh my turn!

If you take a generalization about women that doesn't apply in your specific case to heart and it makes you "sick as fuck", well - it's your own fucking fault for being a sensitive baby.

How does that feel, btw?

Does it feel good to be told that it's your fault regarding something that you think is unfair and upsets you?

Something for you to introspect on for a while.

he'd say something like "be attractive, interesting, funny, kind and caring, etc".

Kind and caring... aka nice? See, you are, right there, giving the 'nice guy' advice, you're just wrapping it up in slightly different words.

If you're saying that he was justified to go on a killing spree because evil womyn were deceiving him about what they wanted, then you can ask yourself

No, I didn't say he was justified. Why do women who come on this thread have such poor reading comprehension and have to put words in other people's mouths?

maybe this sort of fucked up mindset is part of why you can't a relationship or get laid.

Who says I "can't"? Lady you can take your personal attacks, stick'em back up your ass where they came from. If you want to argue, then stick to the argument. If you want to be a little baby and call other people "poopoo heads" then maybe go back to Kindergarten.

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