What is the most embarrassing straw man you've ever read by a philosopher?

Not all feminist epistemologists are the same.

All feminist epistemologies are the same, and if you don't subscribe, you're not a feminist epistemologist. Not all Christians are the same, but if you don't believe that there is only one god and what Jesus said was true, you're not a Christian.

Many criticize those that you're talking about for their essentialism - assuming that all women have a particular way of looking at the world, which is attributable to some "womanness".

I don't even claim that women have a particular way of looking at the world. I'm not sure what "womanness" is. This discussion is about feminist epistemology, not femininity.

Obviously, since you're a naturalist

I didn't say that.

you would know that positivist bullshit that you're spouting is

I didn't spout any positivist bullshit.

Feminism does not attempt to falsify the existence of gender-based oppression.

I know! That's why they're not empirical!

You are not using the word "falsify" correctly here. Falsifiability is a question of whether or not claims are able to be tested with empirical evidence,

I know! Empirical inquiry is ALWAYS falsifiable. Just so there is no confusion, that means ALWAYS able to be tested with empirical evidence. Feminism NEVER tests the existence of patriarchy or oppression.

Feminists have proven gender-based oppression with falsifiable claims about everything from catcalling to sexual harassment to gender pay gaps.

No they haven't. No feminist has ever attempted to do so. Which is why you can't show me even one example. Feminists can show the existence of a pay gap (if by pay gap we mean women choose to work less. If by pay gap we mean women earn less for the same work, no, feminist can't show that in the US today, which is why they obscure the evidence. And that's very un-empirical) but can't show that a pay gap is oppressive or the result of patriarchy. So, there is no empirical conclusion that either patriarchy or oppression exist. Now, if you disagree, show me the work of a few prominent feminists that attempt to prove that the pay gap (even the imaginary one) is caused by something other than patriarchy, or benefits women. If you can't do that, you lose.

The evidence just doesn't contradict these claims; it proves that they are correct. Falsify != argue against.

Show me. Never mind. We both know you can't. Just keep squealing insults instead.

Thanks for the laughs. Your stupidity, combined with how worked up you are over an obviously false claim you baselessly made, is just fucking hilarious.

My stupidity only matters to feminists. My stupidity is irrelevant to empiricists. An empirical fact is true whether I'm stupid or not. In feminism, your feelings about my stupidity sustain the truth. If my claims are so obviously false, it will be easy to prove it. Just give me those examples of feminists who attempted to prove patriarchy and oppression don't exist.

Come back to me when you understand what the fuck you're talking about and have any actual evidence proving that you're correct.

I've offered reams of evidence. You deny that because I obscuring evidence that does not support your assertion is a fundament part or feminism. You have none. Not one of the pack of feminist hyenas in this thread can come up with a shred of evidence that contradicts me. Not one single example. You are a complete failure.

You're against overwhelming consensus for a fucking reason - YOU ARE OBJECTIVELY WRONG.

There is no overwhelming consensus that feminists attempt to disprove the existence of patriarchy. There is no consensus at all. The only thing that everyone agrees on is that you have utterly failed to show even one example.

If you knew anything about the subject, or could even feign knowledge properly, you would know not to make such stupid claims.

Outside of feminism, saying a thing is stupid does not establish that it is stupid. Evidence establishes that. And you don't have any to show that feminists attempt to prove patriarchy doesn't exist. Within feminism, of course, I am stupid merely because you feel that I am. See how feminism works?

Go ahead, keep trying to support your ridiculous anti-feminism with random bullshit you pull out of nowhere.

This is the main thrust of feminism at work. I put forth two basic textbooks on the subject that have been widely used for generations. They support my position completely. But you don't like them. So you say these prominent feminist epistemologists came OUT OF MY ASS! They're BULLSHIT! That's silly. And very, very feminist.

You still can't show me those examples, can you? It's because they don't exist, isn't it? You're faking, aren't you?

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