You've said nothing that refutes what I've said. And the truth is you likely can't if you think I should have been convinced by you merely repeating the party line "yes we are democratic look at us voting" You're not actually trying to address what I've said about the Chinese government having interests separate than workers, or even bothered to look up the meaning of political autonomy for yourself in order to have a genuine exchange. You just keep talking past what I've said and now seem to be getting angry that I'm not convinced by you making actually zero arguement and just repeating oversimplification about how, no really, workers have control.

China has a ruling class with interests seperate from workers. I've actually academically studied both how the government is structured on paper, and how it plays out in the real world. Funnily enough, how it is structured on paper is bad enough to know that it creates an authoritarian government that benefits from its position and therefore has an interest in maintaining its position over the people. It is the definition of a ruling class. But when you look at the real world it's even more evident that the vast majority have no effect beyond the most local governance and have even less say in their work conditions than many westerners. Any attempt to address these issues is always brutally suppressed and swept under the rug.

I'd love it if China were actually democratic and socialist, but sadly they aren't even close. They're at best described as state capitalist. Perhaps preferable in some ways to liberal republics, but still not classless, still not democratic, still not socialist.

As we tell the socdems that think they're demsocs, the government spending money on welfare is not socialism, workers owning and managing the means of production is socialism. ...And a ruling class saying they rule in the name of workers doesn't make it so.

State ownership is clearly not the way to achieve worker ownership. Centralizing power and authority is not how we create an egalitarian society, we do that with egalitarian methods like decentralized economic planning, workers directly owning and managing their work places.