What's going on with America right now???

Just so you understand, there was a lot of facts left out in that answer.

You sound like you are maybe young, or inexperienced. I hope understand, you are on Reddit. Reddit is one of the world's top websites, so there are MASSIVE (foreign & domestic) efforts to manipulate the prevailing discussions and ideas of the American people, or 'Westerner' people in general.

I'm not saying these people are outright lying to you all the time. But always consider what they might NOT be telling you. It's easy enough to catch someone telling you an outright lie, so that's not an effective way to persuade the masses. It's much better to get one side of the story rolling and keep pushing dissenting ideas out of the discussion. Eventually the 'hivemind' goes with the flow.

Some are ignorant of the other side even, like this person who answered probably doesn't have any friends of different walks of life. The only thing they know about other people in the world is through a self-selecting, filtered online experience far away from reality. They may think they are doing the right thing ostracizing their enemy and denying them a voice.

Frankly, you gotta go out there and experience life and talk to people when it comes to an issue as complex as politics.

There are legitimate issues surrounding our media, police enforcement, voting, and pandemic response that have lead to a hurricane of emotions. Amplified x100 by the scrolling 24/7 doom news.

Too many avoidable deaths occured this last year in riots and overflowing hospitals to even begin to take a toll of the many nuanced causes that lead to each individual fate.

But most importantly, notice that the answer you were given framed the destructive riots of the summer as justice served for the death of George Floyd (a convicted violent criminal whose autopsy revealed evidence of long-term substance abuse and Covid antibodies which muddies the waters of whether Chauvin murdered Floyd, or did following police procedure -as Chauvin did to a T, simply have a very unfortunate outcome because of Floyd's unknown fragile heart)

While the language surrounding the riot at the Capitol casts the protestors as violent and murderous when the only deaths it appears were 2 people having heart-attacks, someone getting trampled to death, and an unarmed 14 year air force veteran died when she was shot by a guard. There's a lot of talk of weapons, but it doesn't seem the protestors were there to do anything but have their voices heard. There's was some random vandalism, but I'm reminded of the phrase I heard a lot while small businesses burned to the ground during the summer riots : "it's just stuff. Duh. They have insurance"

It is most troubling to me to see what appears to be a hivemind of opinion that these protestors should be treated with absolute hatred and dehumanized. Where is the humanity?

My only hope is that most of what I'm seeing is artificial. There is obvious efforts by the government and media to make this out to be a crisis according to their framing.

Really, anyone looking at the footage before, during, and after the short lived protest will see that it wasn't so much that the police treated them different because they are white or whatever. But that it was always in control, they could've shut it down, and they did, AFTER THEY GOT THEIR PHOTO OP. Once night fell and curfew was enacted the police brutality was in full force. The "shell shocked" politicians went right back into the chamber that was supposedly so badly ransacked, (but frankly looked fine to me) and they finished their electoral vote tally.

Do not believe people who claim this was some attempted coup to overthrow the government. That's just a big lie. There was NO CONCEIVABLY WAY that was their plan. At most, they wanted election votes invalidated, ones that violated certain polling laws. The went there to vent their frustrations of an election that had their side battered by every major news outlet for the last four years and despite that, still pulled very close to 50% of the vote in the nation and lost important battle ground states barely outside the margin of a recount. It's quite telling that so many people do not trust the media anymore when they refuse to acknowledge and continue to throw insults at half of the country, especially if they don't live in a major city.

TL:DR If I had to sum it up:

It really is just like the BLM riots of the summer. A bunch of poor people who don't feel like they have a voice and have been forgotten by the powerful establishment. This is what happens when people are fed propaganda and put the blame on the wrong people. Like BLM looters destroyed small shops that did nothing for the cause, because that's what mobs do... the Trump supporters did themselves no favors by letting the crowd get lured into a staged crisis that ultimately scared off the few senators that would've supported the re-tallying of votes in this crucial time.

It's just a sad day for humanity...

While this chaos was in all the headlines, China used the opportunity to seize 50 democratically elected officials in Hong Kong for supposed "treasonous sedition" using their newly enacted powers. Which was what the Hong Kong protestors have been fighting against for so long... It is a dark week for democracy around the world..

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