Whats with the hate on Matpat from GameTheory?

I've been a watcher for a very long time. So I have invested some time enjoying his content.

Others have answered, but I want to elaborate a bit. Particularly on a video that I thought was the start of the lower quality content. It's gotten to the point when he created the theory about the traveler (giant white sphere over the city, can't miss it) being evil. I've drawn the line and made an entire rebuttal essay. Reason being that I am very involved in the community that gathers around the lore of Destiny's already cryptic and poetic universe. So misinforming so many people with so much errors and non cannon details is a disservice to the efforts of the entire community. I have a smaller rough draft of the essay that I can post saved from my computer. It may have some bias because it's a rough draft, but I hope you can brush aside and simply see the mistakes in the video.

As respected as mat pat is in the game theorist community. This is one of his worst theories, or at least from my personal evaluation. Simply because simply because the shear amount of misinformation it uses. This is just critism and not any hate to him. I love his content. However. He spent far too little time looking at canon sources and too much from non-canon sources. Like listening for patterns that fit the narrative from listening to a dreg's noises. Who's language consistents of more than the mumblings and other simple noises from an Eliksni soldier. Which probably has no connection to English, or any language native to earth.

He fails to get many details, major and minor, right. Such as when he thinks the fallen are here for revenge. When in reality they are here for redemption and forgiveness from the traveller. If he spent an extra minute standing next to Varkis, gone to one of the wikis which has an extensive list of his dialogue, or item descriptions then maybe he'd get that part right. Another one is his mention of the Vex. I'll admit, this part is arguing over semantics, but I think should not miss any details in case somebody reading didn't know this. The Vex are really cyborgs. They have organic material in their torso. This white organic stuff is described as a milky, yet salty, radiolarian (plankton-like) liquid. that is made up of a countless amount of tiny organisms acting as another brain connected to the Vex hive mind. More information here that has listed sources.

He also never explained to as why the traveller never left earth.

Another claim is that he says the traveler had the massive city before or during the collapse. What really happened was that it was built after by refugees. Then even longer after that the city wall was built.

The correct parts of his theory is child's play or commons sense if you are a lore geek. Reading the Books of sorrow will note this. (Note. Not a single card from the book of sorrow was used.) Oryx was chasing the traveler for millions, nay, billions of years and the Traveller puts up a offensive force to try and fight the darkness but ends up acting as proxy traps to get away. If you throw away the old, irelivent year one jokes and added a quote or two from the books of sorrow. His whole theory can be summed up in a paragraph or two.

A huge part that makes me think he didnt care about the episode was that he almost never acknowledged year two aside from Nolandroid. He makes old irrelevant jokes such such as the Ghorn joke. I haven't heard anyone talk of that weapons in two weeks. I haven't even seen it aside from collecting dust in my vault for months. To me it seems like he made most of the theory during HoWs, drop it. Picked it back up and added a Nolandroid bit and called it a day.

Most of his sources (many of which are non-canon, sounds from a dreg, and cryptic quotes from a hooded squid). outnumber sources used in cards. Which is where most relevant sources to the morals of the Travelers.

The fact that the traveler does this doesn't mean it's evil. Sure, it does it out of its own benefit or goal. However if it wasn't for him, other worlds would fall much faster anyways. Hell, we'd be dead if it wasn't for its existence. If it doesn't try to grow a race's strength. Then what hope is there to stoping something like the maleficent hive from wiping everything out anyways? It's either a choice of there being a slim chance of victory, or absolutly no chance.

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