I'm newly single after 23 years, trying to get my life together first before starting to date. I don't plan on an app. My current plan is join a bowling league and hopefully meet men organically. I know that's unrealistic these days. But I'm not ready for hookup culture and I got a lot to offer.

Thanks so much for replying. I hope this message doesn't come across as all muddled, as I'm sorta new to reddit.

I know a lot of people use online dating, but I'm talking about offline dating, or whatever you call it; not using any profiles or online chatting, none of that. Everything is done in person, face to face.

If you're on a date with someone, it could be the 1st date, 3rd date, 7th date, whatever. But if it's clear that you both want to go home together....

• Would you actually have a "talk" before heading home together, while still at the bar, restaurant, picnic ground, whatever. Not just if anything is going to be happening in the bedroom....but mainly in regards to any bedroom deal breaker issues? A polite and respectful talk, but in public....not when you get home and are in private.

With all of this, I've had a number of past dates and relationships, but I want to get some perspective on this from a variety of people.

As an aside, while I'm a single guy, I am well over the whole one night stand hook up thing. Well and truly over. If/When I meet someone, I am only interested in proper relationships, not all the other nonsense. And that's one of the reasons I'm done with online dating.

Again, thanks.

PragmaticInc - hetero guy