For anyone who wants context, apparently I triggered /u/toasty_- when I made this comment, replying to one putting Brooklyn in the top 3 in the East:

Agreed on the Sixers, not only did they upgrade but everyone ignores that Simmons was hurt for the playoffs. They are not the same team that got swept in the playoffs.

Big disagree on your top 3, though. Durant is 32 and coming off of a brutal injury for basketball players. Kyrie seems to get hurt every year now. And that team is begging for locker room problems with Durant and Irving, especially if Durant is struggling and taking minutes and touches away from young guys who feel like they've earned a bigger role over these past two seasons. And then in the playoffs, Kyrie is a defensive liability who doesn't recognize his shortcomings.

Compare Brooklyn to the Celtics, and there's a good chance that the Jays are a better duo than Durant/Irving next year. The only chance I really see for Brooklyn to be better than Boston is for Durant to come back at 90% of who he was, and that just doesn't seem likely.

I think the KD/Kyrie duo is being horribly overrated right now based on history, and I think that what those guys were 5 years ago is completely irrelevant. I also think defense matters, and that Kyrie is a defensive liability while KD's injury will hurt him on defense.

I don't think that the Jays fall particularly high on the list of duos, but I guess the question is is whether I'm crazy to think there's a good chance that KD and Kyrie are worse this upcoming season than the Jays. /u/toasty_- sure thinks I am, and thought creating this thread was a good rebuttal I guess.