Who's the most overrated player in nfl history?

And ok why do you keep using passer ratings?

Because it factors in touchdown:interception ratios and yards per attempt.

Also, yes, why wouldn't you use career numbers?

Because cumulative numbers like attempts, completions, and yards do little more than tell how many games a player played.

Steve Young had passer ratings of 56.9 and 65.9 when he was with the Bucs, next year he goes to the 49ers and it jumps to 120... Think that had anything to do with the team

Yeah, it did. The Eighties Bucs were a complete train wreck. They had that effect on every quarterback who played for them back in the day. Just look at poor Vinny Testaverde.

You keep trying to compare Elway to Steve Young and Joe Montana and then explain their differences away by the relative talent of their respective teams. Instead compare Elway to some quarterbacks who played for LESSER teams like Ken O'Brien with the Jets, Dan Marino with the Dolphins, Dave Krieg with the Seahawks, Boomer Esiason with the Bengals, Bernie Kosar with the Browns, Neil Lomax with the Cardinals, or Warren Moon with the Oilers. They did just as much as Elway did more efficiently and with lesser teams.

It's really beginning quite apparent though that you have a hard on of hatred for the guy for no reason

I am the one posting with actual evidence and common sense. The llain goddamn truth is that Elway never distanced himself in any meaningful way from his contemporaries, and was always behind several of them. That is plain and demonstrable. You are the one who is spouting emotional bullshit.

Elway's career passer rating was 79.9, you really want to split hairs like that?

When nearly all of his significant contemporaries posted better, and more than a few of them were significantly better despite portions of their career spent in decline or ascension? Hell yes. Put aside the ridiculous numbers that Montana and Young posted. All of the other Pro Bowl-calibur quarterbacks were posting better as well.

While Kosar who you bring up a lot had an 81.8 that was HUGELY influenced by his last year in the league where be had a whopping 32 attempts and had a 102 rating

That is not how statistics work. Besides, that was far from Kosar's only statistically impressive year.

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