A woman who attended parties hosted by the Prime Minister of Italy says she saw Satanic ceremonies and was writing a book about it. She died from poisoning this month

I'm not a fundamentalist Christian or any kind of Christian. I wish I were, I wish I had something to grasp onto, to help me make sense of my experiences, to give me hope, but I am not.

You're wrong about where I got and what I learned, but you're also wrong about the meaning of Freemasonry as a whole. You don't understand its basic purpose because, of course, its stated purpose isn't its actual purpose.

There's a saying that you can never be taught the meaning of Freemasonry, you have to figure it out on your own. Well, I'm not sure if it's really a saying, but I believe it is a quote from one of the big authors, Pike or Mackey, or whoever. Personally, I think that if you're a Freemason then you haven't yet figured it out (I hope you haven't). You're defending it, and with some attitude, but not with the pure hate I see from people who have given themselves over to the evil. You may never figure it out, and if that's the case I'm happy for you. Generally you can only figure it out when it's "too late", when you've gotten in too deep. But the hints of what it is are there to see before it's too late (but, again, "too late" may never come for you if your lodge is itself in the dark).

I'm not going to keep responding to you because I'm not interested in debating this. I am absolutely set on my understanding and belief of Freemasonry, having lived it myself, and while I would love to try to convince you of the truth, I know that you have to come to that realization on your own. I will, however, leave you with one story and comment about a ritual that you will, if you're a Freemason, be very familiar with, and then a final attempt to explain what Freemasonry really is. But, as I say, I won't be responding again.

In the first degree you are asked to give to a poor Freemason. But you can't give because it has been made impossible by you having to be without money or metal on your person to go through the ritual. You are told after you are unable to give that this wasn't done to trifle with your feelings, but to make sure you had complied, else your initiation wouldn't have been valid and you'd have to repeat it. That's the explanation given. But the actions and the words don't match. That's a very important aspect of Freemasonry: the separation of word and deed. During my initiation, I was kind of nervous about saying the wrong thing, so when asked if I would give were it in my power, I didn't answer, waiting instead for my guide to whisper to me the answer, like he had for other questions asked of me so far. That silence elicited several knowing chuckles from the members of the lodge. They were thinking (yep, I'm going to tell you what other people were thinking) "This one's a great candidate!"

The degrees of Freemasonry are a moral play. But it is a play where the actions don't match the words. Freemasons put on a face of being good, but learn to ignore their moral compass, until they no longer have one. The saying that Freemasonry "makes good men better" means "taking good men and making them unbound by morals". To Freemasonry, morality is a crutch, and men are better without it.

There are almost certainly a great number of lodges where the majority of members are good people. But an an organization that is 5% evil is still evil. Grand Lodges are aware of the evil lodges, and are in fact run by the people of those evil lodges. A past master of my former lodge became DDGM, and he was a terrible person. Racist, immoral, just a disgusting person. I also visited a lodge that was run by organized crime. The more evil a lodge is, the more powerful it is, both with Grand Lodge and in society as a whole. As has always been the case with evil.

I have so many things that I learned through hints and intimations, that when put together showed exactly what Freemasonry is at its core. Some of them would seem absolutely nutbars to most people. But the hints were definitely there, and when they all piled up on the eve of my being elected Junior Warden I figured it out and left.

I do hope you realize that Freemasonry is a cover for evil and get out, or, if you're not a Freemason (as you haven't truly said you are), you will never become one.

Again, I will not be responding.

I wish you good luck.

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