Zip code with most Obamacare enrollments votes Republican

Does it really matter what I'm forcing you to do, so long as I'm holding a gun to your head?

Can you stop with these absolutely ridiculous and incredibly extreme examples?

No one is holding guns to anyone's head. You are welcome to opt out of the ACA. No one is going to kill you if you don't. No one kills you for not paying taxes, no one kills you for not having car insurance.

Stop using your "guns" and "killing" examples, they're completely irrelevant to this discussion and add nothing. No one is threatening violence for anything, no one is going to come beat you up because you didn't buy healthcare lol...

but to say it is always evil when you're forced to do anything is ridiculous

How so?

Well, read the first part of my comment. You didn't address any of the questions I asked. It is a fundamental fact of an organized society that you will be forced to do things that you do not necessarily want to do for the good of society as a whole. That's just how society works.

Taxes. Car insurance. Having a drivers license. Going through security at airports. Following the law.

You might not always want to do these things, but guess what? You have to. You don't have a choice. You can't just decide to not pay taxes. You have to obey the laws of the country you reside in. If you don't like that, you can leave. It's as simple as that.

But the fact that an orderly state has certain requirements of its citizens is not evil, as you say. It's a give and take, you reap many benefits as a citizen of the US, and in exchange you are required to pay taxes and follow the law. That's not evil, that's organized society.

Have any suggestions?

Not really. Oddly enough, most people seem to like living in a 21st century society instead of giving up all the benefits of organized government just so they can say "I can do anything I want! Take that!".

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