>Well there are couple things to be aware of and i think you miss it...
>I understand the confusion during the click time, since Athene combined the trolling and paradigm shifts together what can sound really dodgy. But if you watch the cult leaked it's not so hard to distinguish which parts were troll, e.g "I'm the most intelligent person on the planet" - that's an obvious fuel to spread and create "drama".
No i think you actually got trolled here. All the statements i told from Athene are true and not a troll. He actually thought that he is the smartest guys in the world and there is several serious talks and debates where he said that. Only many months later after the backlash got too big he decided to mask this all as a troll because this was not a position he could hold any longer. Probably even he realized how stupid it was to say that and he doesnt do it anymore since then. Its actually very easy to tell when Athene is trolling and when he is serious i dont know how people fall for it.
>As athene said himself the click was just something that helped people become more proactive and that's it, the ranting about being "murder" etc. i have to admit this was wrong to say, even tho there is some truth in it, as we all are most likely able to do something about dying people but we for some other reasons (which are mostly comfort) decide to put them above people lives.
No, not at all. A part of his so called "Psychologic Revolution" (i hope you saw the relevant videos and streams) was to make literally the whole world click or at least create a giant worldwide network of clickers. And he was pretty convinced he would achieve that which made him believe he would be the most influetial person on the planet and fix poverty in the world in a few years. For the longest time "clicking" was also a requirement to join his culthouse in germany. I also suggest you to take a look at the ridiculousness that is reddit.com/r/Makingsense/ especially the older posts. Or take a look at logicnation.org . "Making logic your core value" was something he was pushing hard for the longest time. More than a year in fact. I dont understand how you can tell me it was just about being proactive when it clearly wasnt. Just because Athene said it after he realized how stupid this all was? No offense but you seem to believe everything Athene says without doubting it.
>But at the end he admitted that the way he was going about the click, and the whole approach at that time was just wrong and it didn't work, and he apologize. This guilt rip was just to make people take a decision to do something and that's it, but he didn't know it would have that much of a bad effect. He fucked up there but hey, he moved on and said sorry so for me its a big +.
Yea lets just invite easy to influence, vulnerable people into my culthouse to work for me for free as well as collect donations from clickers and also make hundreds in the internet "click" and ruin some lives in the process by luring them into an ideology that is absolutely nonsense. (Yes a lot of people gut hugely negatively affected by this. I mean even Athene realized this which is why he stopped). I dont know about a you but i draw the line here. This is inexcusable.
>with crypto no one got "scammed" a lot of people got their refunds, the only issue was if you bought dubi not from them, because then they couldn't make sure you actually did bought it. The initial point of the crypto is to buy PRPS so you can get the dubi not buying dubi itself. If you bought dubi then i suspect you just wanted to make kind of abuse the mechanics because you knew that the wall is always there to eat your order. I wanted to buy dubi for that exact reason at the beginning but then i decided to do it in a way that the system actually is designed to work.
>FeelsBadMan for people that didnt managed to get a refund, but it's kind of on their side too.
What how do you think DUBi a Decentralized Universal Basic Income would work if no one ever buys it? How would anyone get an income from it then? Of course it was designed to be bought. Whats the point of getting dubi from prps if its not supposed to be bought which would make dubi absolutely worthless? Why else would they make a coin exchange called dubiex?
Maybe Athene didnt plan on scamming anyone but the design of his cryptocurrencys makes it very hard to not see it as scam. Then again maybe just Athenes stupidity was at fault. Btw Athene admitted on stream once unironcally that he calls his crypto a scam regularly so no one could get at him legally. If he advertises his crypto as scam obviously no one can sue him for scamming.
Also btw my inital point in my post was more about how they pitched their crypto. Their crypto streams were an absolutely mess. Promising huge returns, telling everyone how smart their crypto design was and next days calling it a scam (everything irconically in the Athene way but also unironically depening on when and how you looked at it) . It was hard to see for investors what they were getting into. But unfortunately you will always find people doing stupid things like buying dubi. And they certainly knew that.
>Now as we watch him play wow there is about 20 or 30 people working on the game all day, which is to help the crypto project so i dont understand how anyone can say it was a scam as everyday there are people working to make the crypto a thing
Well obviously selling more of his crypto is his goal as it will make him more money. I think we should just wait and see but you could be right, its a silver streak on the horizon.