Alefantis speaks - and we need to fire back

Interested in your reply. One other thing to take into consideration.

Taking pictures of kids is normal. Taking pictures of kids in a restaurant you own would seem normal. Liking pictures of your friend's kids is normal. An artistic person who owns an artsy restaurant taking pictures of kids in his restaurant, or taking pictures in general seems pretty normal.

Looking at these pictures with known evidence that this person is a pedo allows you to use your bias and say these might be something outside the norm of taking pictures.

The problem, I think, is when you look at these pictures with this bias, when your evidence that is supposed to allow you look through that biased lens are these same pictures.

People are literally using these pictures as their proof, and then acting like these pictures are weird because their taken by someone they think is a pedo (I literally can't even type the full word out, I need to get out of this sub).

The only other proof, that started all of this, is the discussion of pizza (from a third party not this guy) as a codeword used by bad people. Then saying "this guy that talks weird about pizza goes to this pizza place, and the owner of it talks about pizza all the time as well." The thing is, a guy who owns a pretty famous pizza restaurant is likely to talk about pizza all the time. He's a pizza chef, it literally is his life. Even if JP is into something nefarious, the fact that he frequents this pizza place and the guy who owns a pizza place always talks about, you guessed it, pizza, is not only not proof of anything, but it's not even reasonable.

If anything, people should stay on the path of the people involved with the emails. I don't see any real solid evidence there either, but there are some things that aren't easily explained like many of the things here. The pizza place is just a distraction to this whole thing.

Unfortunately, even if something wrong is happening with a small few or all of these people, this will likely never get anywhere because everyone is acting like typical conspiracy theorists, making loose connections to a bunch of stuff that is not even really related and can therefore be easily and honestly explained away. The unrealistic noise will drown out anything worthwhile.

But again, at this point I don't even see anything considered solid or even circumstantial evidence of any wrongdoing. I will say the codespeak, again which started this, is very weird, but even that could be codespeak that has nothing to do with the activities being claimed. Or something not even close to as serious, maybe it's just prostitutes which would be damning to their reputation and their personal lives but is not a felony that makes them all around slime of the earth as suggested.

The more I think about this, the more it's just really unlikely to me that this has anything to do with children. Anyway, as I said interested to hear your thoughts. I do hope I'm right here though because who wants anything like this to be true.

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