Interesting, I guess I do take it personally then. I don't get offended because I have anything to be ashamed of, but just as a guy it doesn't feel right if they have that view on all men, even if it's true. I suppose in that context it's a thankless job, but one still worth doing. I can respect that.

I still don't know why I'm sold on some ideal, friendly, inclusive, feminism that doesn't exist, though. I realize the realities of feminism need to be harsher than that, there's a lot at stake. So, it's just weird when you can't express any pushback to the ideal feminism without seeming like an MRA or misogynist.

I think you've actually answered my question, though. So, for that I'm grateful.